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Re: RU486 will make us muslim I don't think using USA is the perfect example at all because there are alot of social factors that increase violence in america... for example; inequality of wealth. I don't think banning guns would affect this much at all.

Um... so you don't believe that these people come to different conclusions to you?

I'll start it up.

Good Idea, I think the question of "What is God?" should have a completely different thread.

Earlier on I provided some video links which discussed 'magical thinking', and also discussed the way in which God plays perfectly into the way human beings think. Humans look around their world, they are tool-makers, so when they look at the world they wonder 'what created this'... They then...

first year I say you can do it.

I'd like to point out that this point that I don't think moonlight and I know myself did not want to have these discussions about the bible or argue about the bible... It seems to be a rhetorical wank session.

Of course when subjected to more BS it's more likely that a critical thinker will work it out, but it's really quite a small number. I've probably thought it was bullshit from the time I actually thought about it, untill I was probably 11-12 I'd never even really thought about heaven I'd just...

Stalk_If_U_Dare: It takes a strong mind to question the way you did :)

Oh ok. I just wanted to make sure, because while I fully agree with what you're saying at the same time I do think we have ways to deal with these problems, that aren't perfect but they allow us to ..well function ;) Welcome to the NCAP forums btw I haven't seen u before.

wheredanton: I am wondering whether you actually don't believe in objective reality, provisional truths etc?

Yes. Yes. Yes. If you've found answers to all your questions you're probably a simple-minded person. As for 'careful reasoning' I see none of this.

That really does not answer my question... Why is it exactly that you think all these scientists, from different backgrounds, people whom are very well qualified in their fields (often different fields) have come to the opposite conclusion to you? I mean they don't collude together, they're not...

Well I don't know they're not true, but theist attempts at justifying their beliefs have really been quite embarassing so from the knowledge I have at the moment I think it's provisionally true that your beliefs are non-sense.

Yea but still like, she might have no problem with these things... some people don't.

When you start to believe in non-sense, reality has a way of catching up. Let alone the way these people affect others... But really there's nothing inherently 'bad' about a cult, it's up to you if you think it's a good sort of thing.

Wellll not all religious beliefs (i.e. pantheism or deism I really wouldn't say is a cult.) but yes all religions.

As far as my operational definition of christian goes... as long as they accept jesus as the son of god then they're a christian :/ What's your definition?

Can I hear the definition of a cult that would exclude christianity now?

If you can come up with a definition of a cult that would exclude christianity it would be quite a confabulous definition... something like 'a cult is a blah blah except for christianity' lol