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I don't think they're effecting myself much more than other people. I don't know what the second part means... but I'd like you to define what 'real' Christianity is... as far as my operational definition goes, if you believe a guy named jesus was the son of god on earth etc then you're a...

Yea ok but it was ludacris so I pointed it out to you. Let me put it the way I did in my former post - these people while I'm sure living nice live etc, are affecting all of us in negative ways. I dunno what you're going on about here but I was just pointing out that I actually do know quite...

So back when the inquisition was happening that was what god wanted and then he wanted the meaning to change to be more liberal now? Interesting theory, of course it can be right if you bring up god because you know... he's supernatural but it still seems to be quite a wild confabulation. I...

According to science humans evolved from a creature that already had a belly button and there was not just two there was probably a population of a few thousand.

That's because you can't even define your religion because you don't want to accept operational definitions of what a religion is because a) you're dogmatic and b) you don't appreciate how science works. It was unpredictable and in fact there would not have been this reaction if it wasn't...

Wow HotShot you just totally demolished my argument! :rolleyes:

Ugh what I think people don't realise is that there is no 'pure christianity' - i.e. the idea that christianity promotes equality and peace is just wrong unless you decide to skip several books of the bible. IMO from reading the bible the inquisition was really (as the guy in 'the god who wasn't...

Don't post anything if you're not going to 'bother to read the rest of the thread', if you can't be bothered to skim over 4 pages then I can't be bothered to read that poetic bullshit you just posted. P.S. Do you know what a strawman argument is?

Look, veterandoggy, attack my logic. You fail with what you're saying because free will requires options/choices (unless you want to challenge that premise?) so it doesn't matter if god implicitly stated 'you must do this' or not, the fact is that because God already has your life planned out...

Therefore we don't have free will and can only do what god has written down for us. I don't see where you can't work it out... to have free will we have to actually have options/choices. Now if God has everything written down in advanced we have to do what he has written down, otherwise he is...

That's really something very hard to prove.

Um why are you not understanding the whole if god writes our free will down we have no free will because we can only do what he has written down and if we do not then god has not written everything down or does not exist. Anyway to have a proper argument you're supposed to either point out how...

1) Free will requires options/choices 2) If God exists then he knows what we're going to do in the future. 3) Therefore if we do something other than what god has written down, God does not exist. C) Therefore if God exists, we have no free will because we can only do what he has written down.

Whatever you want to turn religion into some huge big broad term so that we can never make any logical conclusions... give me your operational definition of what a religion is please so I can make observations about religions without you butting in. Your definition implied that we don't have...

Nope it actually fits the definition of 'religion' if you get what i mean. No it's not because we don't have free will, unless you accept that we don't have free will?

Yes we understand that it is totally illogical - do you have an answer or did you just wanna confirm what we already thought?

Well we don't put religion into every single issue, religion puts its self into every single issue. It pervades our society and impinges our freedoms, forcing us to act out vocally against it - mmmkay? The liberals have strong a strong backing from hillsong church... many high-profile members...

Surprising you say that since most people whom could actually be called real biological/medical scientists would actually disagree with you - not that I am arguing from popular opinion, just that these people actually do have very good arguments for their beliefs... I'd like to know why you...

What because I see the positive aspects of socialism/communism you think that's a worry? - Their religious dogmatism. - Their stupid racism - it's not even a more 'intelligent' form of racism, it's just plain barbaric hatred. - Their black and white view of the world which ends up in a...

Says the guy who doesn't know what communism is, let alone probably anything about any social theory ever. By the way, I never thought I would see the day when I am called a communist..