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Then how can you justify that some people go to prison whereas others go free? If we're all equally bad to you, why aren't we either all free or all in prison? I think your moral compass is a little confused.

Why does there have to be 'good' and 'bad' people Brad? What a simplistic world you must live in. Am I one of the bad or am I good person?

Well if you're worried about problems, people whom pledge to not have sex before marriage usually end up doing so anyway and when they do they're less likely to wear a condom than someone who has not made such a pledge.

Do you believe that believers actually do believe? A little bit earlier in this thread I made a few posts explaining that I don't really think believers believe in God. I based this on that their actions/decisions do not seem to be those of a person whom accepts god's existance as a reality just...

I don't want to get into that, because all I'm trying to do is play it down at the threadstarter's level to help her resolve her problem, as much as (as far as debate is concerned) it's a boring place to argue from. I don't think challenging the core of her religious belief will really help her...

yeah But he's already explained that all sin are equal. Why couldn't he have been bringing it up to emphasize that lusting is the same as commiting adultery in real life, as in, the same act in the eyes of the lord ? It depends whether you believe that the lines "adultery in the heart" mean...

Yes but the use of the word 'actually' and the fact that he brings it up in the context of adultery makes it seem much more to me as if my interpretation is more accurate. To add to that, why would God need to bring it up and say it's 'adultery in the heart' instead of simply saying that...

So you believe that it makes a distinction between adultery in the heart and adultery in the bed with that sentence? How differently would the sentence be phrased if he meant that they were both equal acts then? See to me, for it to mean what you say, it should be phrased '... has already...

Err no, you're not understanding. In the bible, it means that lusting for someone IS THE SAME ACT as actually having sex with them. My analogy explained this using a make-believe law that said that "If you think about stealing an object, it is the same as stealing it" - therefore if you've...

BradCube - why is sex before marriage so wrong? I understand that it says it in the bible, but why did God prohibit it?

Well it's quite offensive when it's obvious that they are wrong, if they are justified tho (i.e. I haven't studied hinduism at ANY great length) then fine, bring that up. What annoys me most is that they seem to think that further knowledge of a religion means that you're more likely to...

My point is that according to the bible she has already committed the same sin as starting to have sex, so she might as well. No, that's a flawed analogy. A real analogy along those lines would be, if there was a law that said thinking about stealing something WAS to actually steal it, then by...

Why does it have to be unlimited in everything to limit us? Perhaps one of it's capabilities is to limit us? Well you certainly can't logically have something which is unlimited, so I don't see why you can't have a limited beginning - whatever that means. Interesting you say that, because...

I don't know... Does god have a mind? It's a supernatural entity that has no examinable properties. Well I don't think it has to be 'unlimited in everything' to create the universe, could you explain why it has to be?

Well it COULD be anything supernatural. Perhaps it was magic pixie dust? How did god make everything? How did god tell the wind to move? How did god create such complex things? We have wind here on earth, it's generally because of changes in air pressure (I believe). No intelligence needed...

Even if we were to accept that the universe was created by some supernatural entity, that does not mean that there is a sentient God. This supernatural force could be ANYTHING, why does it have to be this all-powerful, sentient God? Can you actually quote the things he copied from Moonlight's...

I don't know the properties of God. If he's infinitely powerful tho, why can't he kill himself? If you want to continue claiming he can't kill himself, then who's to say he's not asleep, or just not interested in man-kind? Perhaps God created the universe as something cool to look at and we were...

That Kobz guy sure is a loon.

Kobz, I've done alot of thinking :) As for your question, the answer is... I dunno? Do you know?

Yes a start, but how do you know god didn't create the universe then kill himself from boredom?