History Extension Predictions/Thoughts (1 Viewer)

[Baliistic]

yea idk. i think every school teaches history ext very differently, but from what i gather most people do go in with a select amount and just adapt them to fit the q?

Lowkey I just have all of mine remembered so I could honestly answer a lot of questions just through my historians (I usually aim for around 4 body paragraphs for both q1 and q2)

 

[Baliistic]

Ask me about a historian and I can tell you their historical philosophy, major works and which century theyre from

 

[tiana4678]

I did a bit about this in yr11 modern such an interesting topic. What monuments were you looking at in specific (or was it a more broad analysis?) I looked into the removal of Southern Generals and slave owners in the USA last year and it was so interesting

It was more a broader analysis but the ones I used as case studies were Cecil Rhodes' Oxford Statue, a few Nazi memorials, Dr James Marion Sims in the US, ISIS Palmyra Syria, and Pharoah Akhenaten.

 

[99.95dreams]

Ask me about a historian and I can tell you their historical philosophy, major works and which century theyre from

damnn how many do you think is a 'good' amount to know? like you reckon one from each school or...

 

[WorkEfforts]

the fact that you believe it's a useless subject shows that you don't understand it at all. It's about critical thinking and understanding how political motivations guide propaganda in history.

But i guess if you're an immoral bot who'd believe whatever the government tells them and prefers mining, then that's a you problem.

And by the way - I got 100% in my major work, and 48/50 in my trial.

Yes and what will you be using this information in the future for?
You will (I'm sure) end up doing a job that has 0 relation to what you learnt in that useless history class of yours
All that hours of history and examination on history just for it to go to waste

 

[WorkEfforts]

the basic skills taught in history extension of comprehension, understanding, and constructing a clear and nuanced argument is prolly one of the most universally applicable of any subjects. same with english extension. its not about the specific knowledge its about learning a method of thinking

Yes and you can learn that from just doing purely english alone (which is already mandated)
So why go ahead and do basically the same replica of a subject (added on with the useless history part)?
You learn 'the method of thinking' by participating and doing all sorts in English class already and you can sharpen your mind etc through maths as well
So you might as well do something more useful that can help you in the future instead of learning about the past which I'm sure no one give two shits because our world is constantly technologically advancing every single day

 

[WorkEfforts]

Surely this is bait... people still choosing their jobs based on economic motivations rather than personal interest is lowk crazy

Who wants to be an archaelogist in this climate/in this current world?
Sure out of personal interest but I don't really think it is sustainable is it?

 

[Historyhater]

I find it quite stupid to consider your hsc subjects to be reflective of your career aspirations. Sure, it is to some extent if you require a certain mathematical or scientific foundation for your subjects, but the assumption that every history extension student wants to be an archaeologist or historian is quite baseless. You learn to know more about the world, yet being stuck in this bubble of your subjects being a determinant for your future success is one that is unsustainable. A highschool student shouldn’t worry about what’s useful to the world, they can learn that later, but rather focus on their passions so we are no longer the robots you want us to be- as you infer through the idea of STEM being of higher value in this “technologically advanced age.” Thanks for your useless thoughts, it contributed much to this forum.

 

[99.95dreams]

it's stupid to assume that every history extension student wants to become an archaeologist or historian. in that case, does every maths ext 2 student want to become a pure mathematician? every music extension student wants to become a full-time musician? under your logic, why don't we eliminate pdphe, visual arts, drama, music etc. from our 7-10 curriculum, since most people won't pursue that as a job?

 

[99.95dreams]

also this is what bro said in a different thread... slightly ironic no?

 

[tiana4678]

"Medicine, law, business, engineering, these are noble pursuits and necessary to sustain life. But poetry, beauty, romance, love, these are what we stay alive for. " -Dead Poets Society

 

[Baliistic]

Who wants to be an archaelogist in this climate/in this current world?
Sure out of personal interest but I don't really think it is sustainable is it?

Most history extension students go into law btw

 

[99.95dreams]

and it is perfectly valid to do it for any other reason! i plan to go into science but i still do 3 units of history simply because i like it and also hisext is a good atar booster lol

 

[scarlett_tran]

im fine with only studying 2 of 3 aspects of my case study right

 

[99.95dreams]

as in 2 debates? yea should be all good as long as you know them really well!

 

[scarlett_tran]

as in 2 debates? yea should be all good as long as you know them really well!

yes thank you! i sort of thought they've never asked for all three debates so hopefully thats alright
how is everyone studying for this also?? haven't really started

 

[samdaman33]

yes thank you! i sort of thought they've never asked for all three debates so hopefully thats alright
how is everyone studying for this also?? haven't really started

memorising historians and quotes and then essay plans for weird and wacky questions
when i do essay plans i give myself 5 minutes to come up with a nuanced thesis becuase you can so easily end up overthinking these questions, but you also have to make sure you don't end up changing your mind halfway through the exam, so I've found 5 minutes to be perfect
also practicing integrating sources into paragraphs

 

[Anonymouswolfie67]

yes thank you! i sort of thought they've never asked for all three debates so hopefully thats alright
how is everyone studying for this also?? haven't really started

I'm doing essay plans + have a versatile opinion of history that can be moulded to different questions

 

[Anononthehunt]

how do I study for question 1?? Like, how do I plan an essay for it step by step? I've got a bunch of historians from different eras but no idea how to adapt them to a question.

 

[soph235897]

are they allowed to ask for 3 areas of debate in case study?