History Extension Predictions/Thoughts (1 Viewer)

[meowmeow33]

Why do people feel the need to undertake this completely useless subject
You gain nothing from this or any lead for future professions

I understand people might choose this out of personal love and curiosity but still.....you will never use these information in real world context
Unless you want to become an archaeologist - An unfortunate job (When you could earn millions from doing mining instead)

the basic skills taught in history extension of comprehension, understanding, and constructing a clear and nuanced argument is prolly one of the most universally applicable of any subjects. same with english extension. its not about the specific knowledge its about learning a method of thinking

 

[Socialism]

I understand people might choose this out of personal love and curiosity

pretty sure that's supposed to be ragebait but like, lol you said it yourself... that's why people take the course xD

 

[sethdonno]

the fact that you believe it's a useless subject shows that you don't understand it at all. It's about critical thinking and understanding how political motivations guide propaganda in history.

But i guess if you're an immoral bot who'd believe whatever the government tells them and prefers mining, then that's a you problem.

And by the way - I got 100% in my major work, and 48/50 in my trial.

Thats so good congrats!

 

[andrew ridge]

how do you guys approach q1? base essay or just wide knowledge? or is there a specific set of historians you usually use

i have talking points memorised. so like the change in audience, evidence, purpose, form and other things like the democratisation of history and the role of the digital revolution. im going to use herodotus thucydides then bede then von ranke then move into the annuals school and then modernism with carr and elton if i need really contempory ones ill pull from content areas im strong with like califorina gold rush (that was my major work). i think thats the easiest thing to do if you have a good memory

 

[andrew ridge]

Thats so good congrats!

mate thats insane i got 41/50 and was happy in trial

 

[andrew ridge]

fr i was doing a hisext paper just now and i actually had fun hahah

i feel like its just refreshing to be able to say whatever you want and formulate an argumenet you belive in because the questions are jsut so broad

 

[andrew ridge]

history extension q2 has turned me into a jihadist just based on how evil western revisionists are in terms of the crusades

witch hunts in europe made me the biggest feminest until we got to this person called lyndal roper who said it was like the 'holocaust of women' and a 'brutal form of sexual terrosim'. i drew the line there

 

[99.95dreams]

the fact that you believe it's a useless subject shows that you don't understand it at all. It's about critical thinking and understanding how political motivations guide propaganda in history.

But i guess if you're an immoral bot who'd believe whatever the government tells them and prefers mining, then that's a you problem.

And by the way - I got 100% in my major work, and 48/50 in my trial.

amazing!! what was your major work topic? i'd love to read it haha

 

[tiana4678]

amazing!! what was your major work topic? i'd love to read it haha

thank you!! my major work was on the destruction of controversial monuments. Something along the lines of - do historical philosophies impact our perspectives in whether destroying monuments is ethical?

 

[meowmeow33]

so for q1 a lot of ppl have specific historical schools n historians n their methodologies etc memorised that you whip out regardless of q? does anyone only use specific schools for specific questions or is it not worth it to memorise it and not use it?

 

[99.95dreams]

so for q1 a lot of ppl have specific historical schools n historians n their methodologies etc memorised that you whip out regardless of q? does anyone only use specific schools for specific questions or is it not worth it to memorise it and not use it?

wait so like you memorise like say 5 historians and use them according to the question?

 

[samdaman33]

so for q1 a lot of ppl have specific historical schools n historians n their methodologies etc memorised that you whip out regardless of q? does anyone only use specific schools for specific questions or is it not worth it to memorise it and not use it?

i'd say its more worth it to memorise less detail but a lot more historians and stuff so you can end up using stuff that is right for the question, because it's not like english advanced where you can just memorise everything they actually want a sustained answer to the question that isn't all memorised

 

[meowmeow33]

wait so like you memorise like say 5 historians and use them according to the question?

well my teachers kinda insane and has given us like prolly 15+ historians and schools and told us to only use the relevant ones for the question but its like lowk a lot. but im wondering if ppl are just bringing in like 2-5 or so and just using it no matter what

 

[Baliistic]

Why do people feel the need to undertake this completely useless subject
You gain nothing from this or any lead for future professions

I understand people might choose this out of personal love and curiosity but still.....you will never use these information in real world context
Unless you want to become an archaeologist - An unfortunate job (When you could earn millions from doing mining instead)

Surely this is bait... people still choosing their jobs based on economic motivations rather than personal interest is lowk crazy

 

[Baliistic]

Especially smth like mining...probably one of the most immoral and unethical jobs out there

 

[samdaman33]

Especially smth like mining...probably one of the most immoral and unethical jobs out there

i think thats a bit extreme, everything we use has to come from somewhere and those places are mines, i think lots of the coal mines on indigenous land is bad but without mining we'd still be in caves

 

[Baliistic]

thank you!! my major work was on the destruction of controversial monuments. Something along the lines of - do historical philosophies impact our perspectives in whether destroying monuments is ethical?

I did a bit about this in yr11 modern such an interesting topic. What monuments were you looking at in specific (or was it a more broad analysis?) I looked into the removal of Southern Generals and slave owners in the USA last year and it was so interesting

 

[Baliistic]

i think thats a bit extreme, everything we use has to come from somewhere and those places are mines, i think lots of the coal mines on indigenous land is bad but without mining we'd still be in caves

Most mining companies are owned by a small amount of people. The people actually doing the mining are paid so much less compared to the owners, I guess it's less of a problem of the actual job because I agree it is important but the practices of major mining companies is so degenerate and obviously CEOs are all pretty evil but mining company CEOs are a different level of evil (especially around mining on indigenous cultural sites)

 

[99.95dreams]

well my teachers kinda insane and has given us like prolly 15+ historians and schools and told us to only use the relevant ones for the question but its like lowk a lot. but im wondering if ppl are just bringing in like 2-5 or so and just using it no matter what

yea idk. i think every school teaches history ext very differently, but from what i gather most people do go in with a select amount and just adapt them to fit the q?

 

[samdaman33]

Most mining companies are owned by a small amount of people. The people actually doing the mining are paid so much less compared to the owners, I guess it's less of a problem of the actual job because I agree it is important but the practices of major mining companies is so degenerate and obviously CEOs are all pretty evil but mining company CEOs are a different level of evil (especially around mining on indigenous cultural sites)

yeah i agree that mining ceos are evil but the person before was talking about being in mining, which isn't inherently evil or immoral