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murder rates in death penalty states vs non death penalty states in America:




a few more graphs, along with this one, can be found here
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates#stateswithvwithout

also shown in this table (highlighted = non-death penalty states)
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord



and here


http://blog.amnestyusa.org/deathpenalty/us-homicide-rates-and-the-death-penalty/ and http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-penalty/us-death-penalty-facts/the-death-penalty-and-deterrence




http://blog.amnestyusa.org/deathpenalty/a-clear-scientific-consensus-that-the-death-penalty-does-not-deter/


sure it stops the criminal from committing more crimes but if they knew that there was a possibility that they would be executed for murdering someone, wouldn't they then perhaps commit more crimes (e.g. kill witnesses) in order to avoid capture?
problem here: niggers/mexicans aren't being controlled for

The murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty, and the gap has grown since 1990.
states more likely to have the death penalty (and use it consistently) are the more conservative red states which have higher concentrations of negroes and in the case of texas, latino poison. shouldnt you extricate all of the relevant demographic variables here before establishing the certainty of this alleged non-relationship?

those data could well be telling us less about the effectiveness of the death penalty in deterring crime (though whatever independent effect it does have if it did have such an effect would probably be in my opinion very very small) and more about the types of individuals that tend to live in states with the death penalty and those that tend to live in states that don't

southern states have the most glaringly obvious confounding variable
 
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problem here: niggers/mexicans aren't being controlled for
states more likely to have the death penalty (and use it consistently) are the more conservative red states which have higher concentrations of negroes and in the case of texas, latino poison. shouldnt you extricate all of the relevant demographic variables here before establishing the certainty of this alleged non-relationship?

those data could well be telling us less about the effectiveness of the death penalty in deterring crime (though whatever independent effect it does have if it did have such an effect would probably be in my opinion very very small) and more about the types of individuals that tend in states with the death penalty and those that don't

southern states have the most glaringly obvious confounding variable
Virginia Vs. West Virginia... :S
 

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20% nigger 7% latino

that's enough to shake things up in any place pretty bad

w.v is 96% (!) white, though it is a white trash state
 

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Now cosmo when you say "nigger" do you mean plain ol' African Americans making their way through life

or

 

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Perhaps lifetime imprisonment for any party found guilty of any murder would be a more fitting punishment.
That's even worse. Mandatory minimums and sentences are ridiculous and do not allow the Judicial system to do its job, which is sentencing.
 

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They're kind of a deterrent that stops some people from committing crimes. I bet if they weren't there, crime rates would be like 50 times higher
Is the only reason you don't commit crimes because you may be caught?
 

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make nothing illegal

crime drops to 0

make everything illegal

crime is ~



victimless crimes





i dont *not* commit crimes because i might get caught
 

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Life for murder, regardless of who the victim is.
 

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