The Notorious B.I.G VS Tupac (2 Viewers)

[darek_arsenal]

What's Your Phone Number

Sorri...what for?

 

[YBK]

the decision is split but the majority usually favours biggie.

end of story.

How do u know the majority favours biggie. Just because you like him more than 2pac doesn't mean all rap fans do, even those like you who claim to know something about hip hop.

I'd agree with the decision being split - that is logical. But what I wonder is how you can say the decision is split and then claim that the majority usually favours biggie, obviously your preference towards BIG is influencing your words.

bah, why do I care? The genre itself is highly overrated anyway.

 

[darek_arsenal]

How do u know the majority favours biggie. Just because you like him more than 2pac doesn't mean all rap fans do, even those like you who claim to know something about hip hop.

I'd agree with the decision being split - that is logical. But what I wonder is how you can say the decision is split and then claim that the majority usually favours biggie, obviously your preference towards BIG is influencing your words.

bah, why do I care? The genre itself is highly overrated anyway.

How bout u get the fuk out of this thread, u dont know shit about rap music, someone who would know a thing, would know that biggie was better, and that tupac was a blood wannabe overrated rapper who only made 4 good songs and no good albums

 

[YBK]

How bout u get the fuk out of this thread, u dont know shit about rap music, someone who would know a thing, would know that biggie was better, and that tupac was a blood wannabe overrated rapper who only made 4 good songs and no good albums

Yeah, overrated wannabe, sure sure. If it wasnt for pac, the rap genre would not have spread to what its become now.

Apparently, you don't know shit, actually, I think you're just stupid.

 

[ggggggggggggggg]

Biggie waz probably a more hectic rapper tha 2pac. But 2pac was better in what he had to say- some of the time.

 

[darek_arsenal]

Yeah, overrated wannabe, sure sure. If it wasnt for pac, the rap genre would not have spread to what its become now.

Apparently, you don't know shit, actually, I think you're just stupid.

Mate, if it wasnt for Tupac, Biggie and him would be still alive, and what the fuk u saying that if not for 2pac, the rap genre would not have become what it is now...are u stupid, tupac did shit all to rap, he only created a bad image for it

 

[hiphophooray123]

How do u know the majority favours biggie. Just because you like him more than 2pac doesn't mean all rap fans do, even those like you who claim to know something about hip hop.

I'd agree with the decision being split - that is logical. But what I wonder is how you can say the decision is split and then claim that the majority usually favours biggie, obviously your preference towards BIG is influencing your words.

bah, why do I care? The genre itself is highly overrated anyway.

no i am not just saying this without any reason too, i have read so many articles, talked to so many fans talked to so many teenyboppers, seen shows, seen documentaries etc.

biggie is heralded as an all round better rapper than 2pac. 2pac just appealed to too many peoples emotions, and thats why alot of the mainstream seems to favour him.

 

[YBK]

hiphophooray123, okay, maybe as a rapper, and only as a rapper, BIG was better than pac. Rap is not confined to delivery and rhym, it is also to do with a lot of other things which 2pac does really well.



darek_arsenal 2pac was obviously a more influential figure. And no, he didnt create a bad image for rap, where the heck did you get that from. Have you heard songs such as "Dear mama", "brenda's got a baby", and "keep your head up"

Just a line from a Biggie song, since you claim 2pac was a bad image:

"Fuck that shit, I wanna tote guns and shoot dice
All my life I been considered as the worst
Lyin’ to my mother, even stealin’ out her purse
Crime after crime, from drugs to extortion
I know my mother wished she got a fuckin’ abortion"



Oh and check out this song of BIG:

"(jodeci song playing in the background, sound of head board banging
Against the wall, and biggie grunting)

Woman moaning, uh, yeah, uh, oooh, oh yeah, mmm, yeah
Oh fuck me you black mothafucka, oooohh yeah!!! mmmmmm, aaahhh
Oh fuck me you black kentucky fried chicken eatin’
Ohhh, ooohhh, yeah
You mothafuckin’ gangsta killin’, mutha fuckin black mafia ass
Muthafuckin, you, ohhhhh my god
You chronic smokin’, oreo cookie eatin’, pickle juice drinkin’
Chicken gristle eatin’, biscuit suckin’, muthafucka
V8 juice drinkin’, slim fast, black greasy muthafucka
Ooohhhhh
Biggie: what’s my name?
Woman: biggie!
Biggie: what’s my name?
Woman: biggie!

Oh yeah
(sound of biggie and the woman falling off the bed)

Biggie: I’m sorry.
Woman: ahhhh....
Biggie: oh shit. damn.
Woman: (laughing) jenny craig eatin’ muthafucka
Biggie: (laughing) fuck you bitch..."


Great, he's having sex. Very deep thought provoking stuff.

 

[sam04u]

darek arsenal... you cant argue our perspective...

You're asking us who we like; We're saying tupac... Thats our decision...

You ask us a question... then you argue who we choose? If you know so much about hip hop why ask us? Little bitch... we not saying biggie doesn't have his own style... we're saying tupac is better... thats it... you can ask why we can state why... then you gotta accept it as our opinion.

 

[hiphophooray123]

hiphophooray123, okay, maybe as a rapper, and only as a rapper, BIG was better than pac. Rap is not confined to delivery and rhym, it is also to do with a lot of other things which 2pac does really well.



darek_arsenal 2pac was obviously a more influential figure. And no, he didnt create a bad image for rap, where the heck did you get that from. Have you heard songs such as "Dear mama", "brenda's got a baby", and "keep your head up"

Just a line from a Biggie song, since you claim 2pac was a bad image:

"Fuck that shit, I wanna tote guns and shoot dice
All my life I been considered as the worst
Lyin’ to my mother, even stealin’ out her purse
Crime after crime, from drugs to extortion
I know my mother wished she got a fuckin’ abortion"



Oh and check out this song of BIG:

"(jodeci song playing in the background, sound of head board banging
Against the wall, and biggie grunting)

Woman moaning, uh, yeah, uh, oooh, oh yeah, mmm, yeah
Oh fuck me you black mothafucka, oooohh yeah!!! mmmmmm, aaahhh
Oh fuck me you black kentucky fried chicken eatin’
Ohhh, ooohhh, yeah
You mothafuckin’ gangsta killin’, mutha fuckin black mafia ass
Muthafuckin, you, ohhhhh my god
You chronic smokin’, oreo cookie eatin’, pickle juice drinkin’
Chicken gristle eatin’, biscuit suckin’, muthafucka
V8 juice drinkin’, slim fast, black greasy muthafucka
Ooohhhhh
Biggie: what’s my name?
Woman: biggie!
Biggie: what’s my name?
Woman: biggie!

Oh yeah
(sound of biggie and the woman falling off the bed)

Biggie: I’m sorry.
Woman: ahhhh....
Biggie: oh shit. damn.
Woman: (laughing) jenny craig eatin’ muthafucka
Biggie: (laughing) fuck you bitch..."


Great, he's having sex. Very deep thought provoking stuff.

that sex thing is a SKIT....it is part of his DEVELOPMENT...ready to die tracks his DEVELOPMENT that is the whole theme of the album. from birth (intro) to death (suicidal thoughts), that album is brutally honest and as someone from the streets, he paints one of the greatest pictures ever painted in hip hop.


in terms of:

delivery/flow
rhyme scheme
lyrics
beats
mood of the song

biggie > 2pac

 

[hiphophooray123]

darek arsenal... you cant argue our perspective...

You're asking us who we like; We're saying tupac... Thats our decision...

You ask us a question... then you argue who we choose? If you know so much about hip hop why ask us? Little bitch... we not saying biggie doesn't have his own style... we're saying tupac is better... thats it... you can ask why we can state why... then you gotta accept it as our opinion.

no, it's more like we are dismissing your opinions as uninformed, and uninformed opinions mean jack shit.

you don't see me arguing with illmatic, do you?

 

[Shkev]

man 2pac for sure man y even start this question anywaiz?? lol

 

[darek_arsenal]

man 2pac for sure man y even start this question anywaiz?? lol

I started this question to see how many fags think 2pac is actually better....obviously u dont know shit if u reckon tupac is better

 

[darek_arsenal]

hiphophooray123.....can ya please send the clips from the Kanye Concert

Oh yeah....and fuk those who like Tupac

 

[darek_arsenal]

jus realised that u sent it...thanks

 

[YBK]

I started this question to see how many fags think 2pac is actually better....obviously u dont know shit if u reckon tupac is better

wow, you're so full of shit that it's not funny. You're not only full of shit, but you're also stupid, very very stupid. I mean, which dumbass starts a thread asking who's better, pac or big and then calls all the people who like pac better fags... seriously dude, u need help.

 

[reggaeman]

hard 1 to nswer man both ave created a legacy

 

[Serius]

personal opinion? i can appreicate both styles but for me i feel Tupac clicked better, he might not have been fast and maybe his ryhmes werent as "good" [ hard to say what is good considering we are talking about elite rappers here] but i feel he connected better with his demographic, he won fanboys and got the market penetration. I think he was a more sucessful raper and he was pretty much the Elvis of the 80-90ies, everyone knows his name even if they cant name more than 1 or 2 songs.

Maybe its that i didnt grow up in the 80's so i have a harder time connecting with what biggie has to say, where as Tupac talks about broader issues, racism, poverty, sexism, broken homes, teenage pregnancy and abusive relationships - i.e things that will always [sadly enough] be topical

Its pretty hard for me to say tupac was "better" i think he had a highly desirable style, but biggies flow i must admit made Tupac sound like a gospel preacher

You cant just judge someone on how fast they rap, how good their flow ans ryhmes is, theres other stuff aswell, hjow sucessful they were, size of their following, money, their image, how they look, how they grew up, what they did for the industry, what[if anything] they shed light upon and how they effected those that listened to him.

but just my personal opinion, f u think biggie was better i really cant fault you, and depending on the day and what i want to listen to, i might agree with you... you just cant say that one shits all over the other though...

 

[illmatic]

Something needs to be clarified here. The East coast style compared to the West coast style. Obviously, if you listen to hip hop you'd realise that the West does not really place rhyming techniqes etc as their focal point. The styles are different... In my opinion really complex lyricism is a characterisitc of the East i.e. Rakim, Nas, Big Pun, Biggie, etc . Ice Cube, Ice-T, Snoop, Dre, Warren G and Pac have a distinctively different style. I havent included Game here cos his flow is Nooo York baby.

I think what i just said is just a load of shit anyway. Im still sticking with Tupac >> Biggie simply because of the larger catalogue, and i just like his music better.


P.S "What's Your Phone Number" is a really shitty track on Pac's apparent "best album" All Eyez On Me. You're pretty stupid to say Biggie was all about commercialism when Pac includes this track in his double disc album.

 

[Serius]

Something needs to be clarified here. The East coast style compared to the West coast style. Obviously, if you listen to hip hop you'd realise that the West does not really place rhyming techniqes etc as their focal point. The styles are different... In my opinion really complex lyricism is a characterisitc of the East i.e. Rakim, Nas, Big Pun, Biggie, etc . Ice Cube, Ice-T, Snoop, Dre, Warren G and Pac have a distinctively different style. I havent included Game here cos his flow is Nooo York baby.

I think what i just said is just a load of shit anyway. Im still sticking with Tupac >> Biggie simply because of the larger catalogue, and i just like his music better.


P.S "What's Your Phone Number" is a really shitty track on Pac's apparent "best album" All Eyez On Me. You're pretty stupid to say Biggie was all about commercialism when Pac includes this track in his double disc album.

I wouldnt really call Dre a rapper, he is more a producer so his style doesnt count
...unless you gonna talk about when he was in NWA, and even then iam pretty sure icecube wrote his ryhmes.

What about Bone thugz anyways? they seem to place a higher focus on speed and accuracy, where as their ryhmes arent of the highest quality
I am thankful that no1 has brought slim shady into this, i dont really wanna deal with another argument about him.

and please, no dissing of will smith either, i would like to think he has earnt his place and his above petty comments