Israel–Gaza conflict (4 Viewers)

[quirkyfly]

mmmmm Pedophile worshippers tsk tsk.

So great of you to describe your friends.
You ignorant, FUDGING IRRITATING, idiot, imbecile israeli.
Enjoy my alliteration, @ss.


ANTI-ZIONISM ALL THE WAY.

FREE FREE PALESTINE.
SHAME SHAME ISRAEL.

 

[Zionist]

So great of you to describe your friends.
You ignorant, FUDGING IRRITATING, idiot, imbecile israeli.
Enjoy my alliteration, @ss.

So great of you to describe yourself.

You ignorant, fugly, whining , retarded and paedophile worshipping, terrorist supporting arab. Enjoy the Bombs!

 

[Rafy]

Guys, could we perhaps inject a bit of substance back into this thread?

 

[Riet]

You're SO right about number one! Did Wikipedia tell you that the Americans who bombarded the country were responsible for that?

Umm homicide rate doesn't include casualties from wars. Also most deaths in Iraq at the moment are from Muslims killing other Muslims.

 

[- L -]

gosh, even hamas rejected the ceasefire
seriously Israel should just wipe Palestine off the map, there so troublesome
no need to worry about aftermath - wipe em all out and take over

i seriously doubt any country would try anything on Israel besides Iran and Lebanon with all that international law bullcrap.

AND we have all forgotten about Zimbabwe >> poor country in Africa thats crumbling and in pretty much a similar state to Gaza ( cept people are dieing differently). Just love the media they have completly stopped putting stories up about our old friend mugabe because arabs are getting killed.

 

[u-borat]

wots the latest hubbub regarding israel/palestine?

 

[sam04u]

impractical. israel isn't going anywhere any time soon. all arab nations united wouldn't be able to defeat israel. i'm not saying we should just lay down and concede defeat, but we need a new approach sooner rather than later.

Yes, that's happening as far as I know. Hamas is not responsible for the suffering of the people of Gaza though, even though they're not a favourable government, any government in Gaza would suffer similar misfortunes whilst trying to achieve peace and justice for the Palestinian people. The blame must rest solely on the state of Israel.

Once we accept that fact, we can find a better solution through the support of a more calculated resistance such as that of Hezbollah and it's backers around the world. First and foremost the world opinion. Israel's only way of trying to control world opinion is through propogandists and it's blockade on Gaza, by disallowing journalists into the Gaza strip to see the atrocities being commited. By using verified statistics to show the damage Israel is doing on the people of Gaza and then comparing that to their apparent casus belli (to protect the people of Israel) we can see that not only is their response disproportionate, but that it is infact not a response at all.

Israel broke the cease-fire.
Israel has been blockading Gaza of the neccessites to life for 18 months.
Israel has killed an estimated 300 children.
Israel is starving the 1.5 million Gazans by blocking neccessary aid and attacking those who deliver aid.
Israel is using illegal weapons such as white phosphorous and other incendiary weaponry.

and in response...

Hamas is firing ineffectual weaponry on civilian targets with a negligible comparative effect.

 

[sam04u]

wots the latest hubbub regarding israel/palestine?

U.N resolution passed calling for an "immediate and durable cease-fire", Israel responds to it by saying "Jerusalem will not allow the international community to tell us what to do" followed by more bombing.
Hamas doesn't respond but returns fire.

Protests around the world.
International condemnation from human rights agencies as well as international bodies.
International community calls for Israel to halt it's siege on Gaza.
U.N aid convoys and schools used to shelter civilians are attacked by Israel.

Huge protest in London with approx. 20,000-30,000 people present.


Much more.

 

[JaredR]

30 rockets hit Israel Friday. In '07-'08, Hamas fired 4681 rockets & mortars into Israel.

 

[m00]

30 rockets hit Israel Friday. In '07-'08, Hamas fired 4681 rockets & mortars into Israel.

oh noooo the poor Israeli children are traumatised for life! /end sarcasm

 

[Zionist]

Yes, that's happening as far as I know. Hamas is not responsible for the suffering of the people of Gaza though, even though they're not a favourable government, any government in Gaza would suffer similar misfortunes whilst trying to achieve peace and justice for the Palestinian people. The blame must rest solely on the state of Israel.

Once we accept that fact, we can find a better solution through the support of a more calculated resistance such as that of Hezbollah and it's backers around the world. First and foremost the world opinion. Israel's only way of trying to control world opinion is through propogandists and it's blockade on Gaza, by disallowing journalists into the Gaza strip to see the atrocities being commited. By using verified statistics to show the damage Israel is doing on the people of Gaza and then comparing that to their apparent casus belli (to protect the people of Israel) we can see that not only is their response disproportionate, but that it is infact not a response at all.

Israel broke the cease-fire.
Israel has been blockading Gaza of the neccessites to life for 18 months.
Israel has killed an estimated 300 children.
Israel is starving the 1.5 million Gazans by blocking neccessary aid and attacking those who deliver aid.
Israel is using illegal weapons such as white phosphorous and other incendiary weaponry.

and in response...

Hamas is firing ineffectual weaponry on civilian targets with a negligible comparative effect.

As long as you Arabs fail to blame Hamas you arabs will suffer and you deserve each and every bombs that explodes in Gaza.

Well Done Israel once again, for killing 600+ Hamas Terrorists.

 

[quirkyfly]

Are you going to be one of those mussie cowards that will attack Jewish kids in Sydney?

And are you going to be one of those terrorist animals who support the murder of innocents? You disgust me.

 

[quirkyfly]

oh noooo the poor Israeli children are traumatised for life! /end sarcasm

They must be sooo traumatised, how can people do such a thing! <sarcasm>

I swear, Israeli's are uttermost hypocrites. They go beserk when rockets are fired at them when they bombard us Palestinians continuously, committing genocide, murdering innocent children, women and men, and it was planned for six months.

Definitely NOT any retaliation. They broke the ceasefire. They planned TO WANTON MURDER.

 

[Zionist]

And are you going to be one of those terrorist animals who support the murder of innocents? You disgust me.

You arabs love your children killed anyways why do you complain? You use them as human shields all the time, use them as suicide bombers, use them as weapons smuggler etc and when they are killed celebrated on the street dancing with music with a huge procession as big the coronation of Queen Elizabeth. Its funny heh

 

[quirkyfly]

You're the Hamas supporter, you tell me, sugar. . How about those human shields and that whole death to Israel thing. Why don't you come back when you've grown up a bit and aren't going to post comments that are so damn similar to trolls.

Grow up? Mate, you're the one who's 13.
Of course I support Hamas. They were legitimately, democratocally elected! Fattah messed with the votes. Therefore, the one who cheats is the worst. To go to the extent where you manipulate votes is weak. Fattah would have handed them the land in two seconds flat.

There are no human shields, the media and western propoganda has MADE IT UP.

ISRAEL BOMBED A SCHOOL FULL OF CHILDREN WITH THE POOR EXCUSE OF 'HAMAS MEMBERS HIDING INSIDE.' Do you want to know what happened?
THERE WAS NOT ONE Hamas member. THEY JUST BOMBED A SCHOOL.

SO NOW YOU KNOW, ISRAEL IS WILLING TO GO TO THE EXTENT OF MURDERING INNOCENT CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WHO SEEK REFUGE AT THE UN SCHOOL.

You have absolutely no facts whatsoever. You're just regurgitating what the media has fed you. KNOWLEDGE is a powerful tool.

FREE PALESTINE.

 

[quirkyfly]

You arabs love your children killed anyways why do you complain? You use them as human shields all the time, use them as suicide bombers, use them as weapons smuggler etc and when they are killed celebrated on the street dancing with music with a huge procession as big the coronation of Queen Elizabeth. Its funny heh

There you go again, talking crap.
I don't take people like you seriously.
I take your kind as scum. You know
what I'm talking about.
Adieu.

 

[sam04u]

YouTube - Finkelstein versus Dershowitz debate, part 1 of 11

Finkelstein tears Dershowitz a new one in this debate.

 

[sam04u]

Fatah actually sought peace instead of the destruction and death of Palestine's people.

Yes, which begs the question as to why Israel supported Hamas and propped them up in order to undermine Fatah?

If Hamas are so evil and only want the death and destruction of Israel, why did Israel support them when Fatah was trying as hard as they did to achieve a Palestinian state alongside an Israeli one?

Even if you were right that fact would disassemble your argument. But the fact is you are not right. Hamas has sought peace with the state of Israel, so much so infact that there was a 6 month cease-fire which Hamas honoured, whereas Israel didn't. What's more is Israel had been starving the Palestinians for 18-months whilst Hamas an organisation whcih supposely seeks destruction and death did not even retaliate.

Hamas controls all reporting in Gaza!

That is utter nonsense. Israel has attempted to control the reporting in Gaza, not vice versa. Hamas would gladly allow journalists to enter Gaza and to see the truth, however Israel would not allow it. Infact there is a great video of a Ha'aretz columnist who came on CNN and exposed Israel's attempt to control the reporting in Gaza to the international community as well as to the people of Israel. It's terrible.

Seriously, have some sense.

 

[sam04u]

Surprised you're not leaping on the child who supports Hamas, Sammy boy.

I can't deal with everyones arguments on both sides of the debate. But yes, looking back at all the political parties of the Palestinian territories in the 80s including all the socialist ones which became apart of the PLO, Hamas was probably the worst option of the lot. But Israel sought to undermine the PLO and instead support Hamas.

Even so, Hamas although it's actions are far from impeccable they did not as Israeli propogandists claim "bring this war upon it's people".

Infact it's not even a war really. You need for there to be two sides for it to be a war. It's a massacre. You can not call Hamas an army.

 

[chewy123]

You're the Hamas supporter, you tell me, sugar. . How about those human shields and that whole death to Israel thing.

According to the UN preliminary report there is a 99.9% chance that no militant was present in the UN school. Human shield is just an excuse.

The Hamas simply represents the anger of hundreds of thousands of refugees expelled from their home in 1948 for the glory of Israel. Though we all know violence=bad, what alternatives do they have when they are locked up like animals with little food and water.