gang rape retrial (3 Viewers)

[sped_kid01]

I think some rapes... aren't that bad at all to be honest.

i bet u would think it was VERY bad if a bunch of guys held u down and raped up the ass one after another?
quite painful i imagine? especially at around....oh? the 5th guy?

 

[tattoodguy]

the person who said rape isnt always that bad ----------------spot on man.

We keeeping feeeling sorrry for women..............if they spread there legs like sluts every weeekend for a different guy......whats the fucking difference if they get raped.....thats like raping ur wife..or a hoooker............big shit......

I know a few girsl who got into shit.......met a dude off the net..and he made her wank him etc................its her own stupidity...

alot of women who are raped are just morons anyways.

i havent been raped.........but i got molested. b4........but its fucking funny to me....i couldnt give 2 shits.........
I have anger managmen4t problems......and i could just go and paralise the guy or maybe sue him.......but i dont even care about what happened its in the past and......its irreleveant -plus i dont want to see someone go to jail or whatever -- also i dont want to admit it happened...cos yeah....i dont want to appear gay and shit .

ive beeen stabbed...fort i was going to die........its bad...but big shit........ thats very truamatising lol....(this costed me indirecatly seriously and easily many 10's of thousands of dollars very very very very conservatively over $100,000 in lost earnings)...

but fuck it.........its the polices fault though........they fuckign did illegal searche on me.......and made me paronoid about police abuse of power....and thats why i cant walk around armed......and thats why it happened.

i blame the police more than the criminals.......there jobs to protect pple......they take away all forms of ppple protecting themselves.. and when they fuck up...and decent citizens are victimised.......they are like tooo bad even though they contribute to it happening.......Its not a reasonable system.


The police gave me wrong information.........and bribed me into giving statements........then they stole my clothes (basicly).

( they bribed me with offers of like compensation when i was in a hospital bed -- that was 1000% of my motivation.(which i never even got a cent of cos they told me some wrong details--- and it would now cause alot of hassle to chase it all up - so i cant really be fucked)..i never wanted tooo talk to the police..they pushed it down my throat when i was injured and fucked up in hospital.

(I had a gun ages ago -- police stole it..well made me turn it in for money.......outlawed my legal gun and shit. Im a fucking law abiding citizen......i should have a right to arm myself and protect myself from the human filth in our society)

if we stop illegal police searches..then decent citizens could carry around nives etc.....just for some protection... or have bullet prooof vests...

If you have a gun for protection --------u get sent to jail its bull shit

Any tiny thing u do.......u get sent to prison.

ill probably get sent to prison one day for something stupid.........cos i have anger managemen tproblems now etc........................how can i not have anger management problems...............when its obvious that the government/police there not going to protect me, i have no choice but to be a voilent person.

There are alot of ppple who......stood up for themselves......and protected them sevles..............and are in jail..............heaps of murderers, assulters etc..........are just victims...

2 times junkies done attempted robbery on me as well....but i wouldnt let them rob me cos i knew some ppple and stufff............but a H junky (which im pretty sure had a syringe on him)and a robbery in company ---------thats like serious crimes commited on me.......i cant be fucked even telling the police.

plus some other shit.

Its a fucked system................im not protected by any laws in this country...........but like i have to abide by all the laws and be a perfect person?

There has been like 4 times the police have been involved with me for like voilence etc......................how can i not be voilent.......i have never been arrested or nothing serious u know...kicked out of my house..by the police was the worst.....but still its close u know.-- if someone went and had a big soook about me and watned to testify etc........who knows i could maybe go to jail or something........its fucked.

i kjnow like atleast 10 other robberies in the last few years....armed robberies and robberies in company that have happened to ppple i know....that havent even beeen taken to the police.....

When i hear victims on tv...bitching..................im always like is that all thats happened to u????????????? u got molested 20 years ago and shit....... shut the fuck up................or u got a gun put to ur head......i feel sorry for these ppple, but theres 10 x worse things that happen toheaps of other ppple.....

Ive had like heaps more things happen to me that most of those soookie little victims on tv..

Even the crimes commmited on me..i consider to be dust........they effect me etc, but there are heaps of ppple in jail who dont deserve it and are victimised by the government every day.............heaps of ppple who are in jail...are extreme victims of very seirous crimes........ shootings, and stabbings and fucking family memembers and freinds murdered....................but u seee all these weak, cry baby victims talking about trauma and shit.........and gettitng all this victim of crime compensation.........its fucking bull shit.

The biggest victims of crime and the truest victims of crime -- alot of them are in jail, they should be shown compassion etc....

The point is most of these cry baby victims we feeel sorry for .......even rape victims.........pooor them........but there are heaps of victims..who are in a much more severe chatergory......and there the victims of crime..who have retaliated or got pychological damage and turned voilent etc.....who are sent to prison.
Thats liek being victimised twice.

After being molested (fuck thats hillarious), stabbing- milicous wounding with a deadly weopon or something, having attempted armed robbery on me, having attempted robbery in company on me...... and all the toher changes that go along with that....dont i deserve alot of leniency under the courts?

what about crimianls who have had even heaps more voilence and crime commited on them....why arnt they given some leniency..

Justice should work both ways..........if ur a massive victim -- u should get compensation and extreme, flexibility, generosity and understanding and compassion from our legal system.

Carl williams was death threated and his family.....hit men were supposedly hired to kill him..his close freinds were killed .he was shot in the stomach..............................thats fucking massively extreme voilence and crime against him......and the governemnt.. puts him in jail over pettty drug charges....
That is 100000000000000 x worse than any pettty rape or gang rape commited on anyone in this country.........that guys one of the biggest victims in our country and should be freeed.

Its total fucking injustice- its basicaly government sponsored crime putting him in jail. help me freee him u fcking scum bags.

 

[tattoodguy]

sorry guys..........thats my longest post ever,,,,,,,,,,,ill never write anything close to that length again..sorry

 

[withoutaface]

i bet u would think it was VERY bad if a bunch of guys held u down and raped up the ass one after another?
quite painful i imagine? especially at around....oh? the 5th guy?

I doubt he was referring to those kinds of gang rapes. More the cases I've heard about where like a guy brings a chick back to his place, they fuck, and then later on he climbs back on so to speak even if she objects.
EDIT: And no I'm not condoning the type of situation I mentioned here, merely stating that there are different degrees of how bad rape is.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Man i already pointed out that the type of rape in this case is bad, however people started talking about rape in general.
And in general i think there's alot of rapes that really aren't that bad, but then again maybe i'm just male chauvanist scum and i have no idea..

 

[thejosiekiller]

that maybe true but when u say that some rapes r not as bad u come across as saying one girl who gets raped over another does or does not deserve it. which is what tattoodguy is saying even though its not really his position to be the judge of this. i just think u need to make clear u believe in different degrees of sexual assault and its consequences

in then end they r all crimes

i think alot of the harsh things he was saying is why some girls who do get raped dont report the offence- which is a shame not having any sense of justice followed thru because of some ppl in society, but of course it depends on the various situations

 

[Not-That-Bright]

He was saying that, but he was mixing it into this case too..... which was wrong.
In this case it is definately a terrible crime, and they definately do deserve 50 years... but there are definately alot of rape cases where it seems people get too much.

 

[thejosiekiller]

i think the number of cases where the offender was possibly sentenced harshly versus the number of cases that go unreported for varied reasons is very different. the actual sentencing process also needs to be examined because imo it far outweighs in levels of concern what is fair

no it is not fair in maybe some cases where harsh sentencing or community outrage impedes justice, however in the end i do believe there would have been aggrevating factors that would have lead the courts to sentence an accused with a harsher sentence that they deserve

 

[llamalope]

Raping is just rooting someone..........many rape victims are probably permiscuous anyways...... and thats how they got into the position of being raped. There is tooo much sympathy for rape victims. (guys being raped by guys is very different though..thats a very serious crime.).

nobody asks to be raped, you little shit..... I suppose you would suggest that people should show more sympathy to the rapists... "Ohhh poor little rapist...he was just trying to get lucky"

For raping a few chicks..u dont deserve 55 years........15 years is plenty....

A FEW???? A FEW????????? dude, if you raped more than one girl you should throw away the key. I think that counts as a SERIAL rapist.

There has been many cases in the media..... where someone has killled someone in retaliation for voilent attack on themselves or family memember or freinds etc. Which is completely justifiable in my eyes.

You can't just take the law into your own hands like that.

 

[alex_c86]

tatooedguy... you're a fucking idiot. from your posts it seems like your saying its ok to rape women if they're already having sex with other people or are 'only' hookers, because therefore they're not really people are they.

(Quote: We keeeping feeeling sorrry for women..............if they spread there legs like sluts every weeekend for a different guy......whats the fucking difference if they get raped.....thats like raping ur wife..or a hoooker............big shit......)

it doesnt matter if theyre hookers or the biggest sluts around, rape is wrong regardless, and those pigs who commit rape deserve the worst sentence they can get. i think it was whiterabbit who said that rape is a form of control and display of power over their victims, and she is right.

(Quote: alot of women who are raped are just morons anyways.)

really? as a rape victim i find that extremely offensive, and i think no one has the right to judge rape victims or their emotions, its the kind of thing that has to be experienced. and no, raping is not 'just rooting' someone, its men like you who make me sick.

(Quote: are extreme victims of very seirous crimes........ shootings, and stabbings and fucking family memembers and freinds murdered....................but u seee all these weak, cry baby victims talking about trauma and shit.........and gettitng all this victim of crime compensation.........its fucking bull shit.)

hmm so im assuming ur not classifying rape as a 'serious crime'? id rather be stabbed than raped, and i think that due to my experiences i can say this without being questioned.

(Quote: Carl williams was death threated and his family.....hit men were supposedly hired to kill him..his close freinds were killed .he was shot in the stomach..............................thats fucking massively extreme voilence and crime against him......and the governemnt.. puts him in jail over pettty drug charges....
That is 100000000000000 x worse than any pettty rape or gang rape commited on anyone in this country.........that guys one of the biggest victims in our country and should be freeed.)

once again... id rather be shot.. u have no right to say these things if you dont understand the psychological trauma rape victims go through...
(Quote: guys being raped by guys is very different though..thats a very serious crime.)

yeh of course, that heaps worse... fuck ur an idiot, of cos guys being raped is a very serious crime, but to say its very different from women being raped is implying that u dnt think women being raped is very serious at all.. wtf r u on. women can be made pregnant by rape, i find it hard to believe that u as an abuse victim take this serious issue so lightly.

 

[alex_c86]

yes, and people like tatoodguy and others have no right to undermine the seriousness of rape if they have no idea what theyre talking about.. try telling ppl in my family that rape isnt that bad and that we're promiscous and deserved it.. and that we're morons anyway, so it doesnt matter. what a fukn wanker.. i cant imagine what those poor girls who were gangraped must have gone through, and itd be easier for me to empathise with them and understand how they must feel than most people. no one can say 'rape isnt that bad'.. in its best case its still a horrible thing and can really affect a person psychologically

 

[ur_inner_child]

hookers get PAID for sex. If I were a hooker, I'd have to put up a mentality and get ready to have sex with a stranger. Like a mental block against the person - like in Pretty Woman, except she just didn't want to kiss him.

ANYWAY back to the point, rape is stealing. To say that a hooker wouldn't mind is crazy. Consider that its their job. Even if they have sex everyday, wouldn't you be pissed if they forcefully did so upon you?

I'd get pissed off when I get paid short at work (I'm a receptionist, not a hooker) even by a few dollars... so when it comes to your body, it gets much personal....

Have you SEEN pulp fiction?

tattoguy, do you wanna be butt-fucked like that?

 

[Estel]

rofl... inner your argument implies that rapists do nothing more than steal a few hundred dollars (or however much the cost would usually be)

Introduce castration for rapists

 

[ur_inner_child]

rofl... inner your argument implies that rapists do nothing more than steal a few hundred dollars (or however much the cost would usually be)

hahaha, well, i just can't get into the mentality that rape is "okay" for hookers... I disregarded what else was "okay" because it's even more ridiculous.... and It's more than stealing, it's just not "okay" just because they have sex anyway..

Introduce castration for rapists

ahaha brilliant

 

[BrenKHS]

You say that these events had no effect on you, yet in the same post admit to having anger management problems. Im sorry does this make much sense to anyone ?

 

[Enlightened_One]

I'm all for the retrial. The miscarriage of justice was by the jurors, not the system or the victim or anyone else.

What pisses me off more is the mentality of these rapists and other rapists. They see 'Aussie' women as beneath them and objects for their pleasure. They have an outright disdain for our laws and our way of life. And most of them came to this country, or their parents did, yet they cannot respect our laws, our women, or our way of life.

And as I said before the jurors screwed up, not the victim. She shouldn't have to sit the ordeal again. And our system is in need of change. Everyone knows they're guilty and they only 'got off' on a technacality.

Forgive spelling mistakes because I'm slightly drunk.

 

[llamalope]

you may be drunk, but you make a lot of sense

 

[tattoodguy]

ummmmmmm yeah they are scum.................our government should be ashamed of its self for the ppple they have let into our country.

but i have to tell u ---------- you complain about them not respecting our laws..................but you dont want to give them a fair re trial - which shows ur obvious disregard for justice and our legal system.

Im sympathetic to the chick who might have got raped.....but we cant just bend all the rules for sympathy..............i dont want innocent ppple sent to jail just to apppease feminists.

they have a right to face their accusers...........its not the rapists fault that jurors didnt follow the rules,,,,,,they shouldnt have to suffer as a result.

they deserve a fair retrail and if found guilty i would love to seee them deported to where they belong.

We should kick some pppple out, not just inprison them, but more importantly we should take better care on who we let into the country.

 

[MoonlightSonata]

It isn't fair on the victims to be forced to get up and repeat their ordeal over and over and over because of scumbag lawyers who get arseholes off on technicalities.

It's called due process, and is essential to the administration of justice. While some have more merit than others, technicalities are there for good reasons and serve to protect people and uphold fairness most of the time.

The "scumbag lawyers" coupled with "getting off on technicalities" stereotype stems from profound ignorance of the legal system. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial.

 

[Dingo2004]

well, you know what they say,

You kill one man, you get life in prison
You kill 10, you're decalred insane and sent to a mental insitution
You kill 100,000 people and you're invited to Geneva for peace talks

Just wanted to add that...

hehehehe
soo true