Cadetships! (2 Viewers)

[*sasha*]

are there any other cadetships where u can still apply? or have i left it too late? my friend just got an offer from pwc and i just realised how good these things are!

 

[blackfriday]

some firms advertise for second year students but its hard to find.

btw: cadetships suck ass

 

[=candii=]

are there any other cadetships where u can still apply? or have i left it too late? my friend just got an offer from pwc and i just realised how good these things are!

yeh weston woodley and robertson are open til 31st August...so you can apply for that one. im sure there are a few other firms (mid-tier) that are still open for applications. The big 4 have all closed unfortunately. But if there is any compnay you really want to get into, you could give in your resume and coverletter and see if they respond

Goodluck

 

[icycloud]

btw: cadetships suck ass

Why?

 

[=candii=]

so the top tier dont take in 2nd years?

for cadetships im not sure (although in my PwC interview...we had a guy from UTS, he might have been a first yearer though). even if they did, isnt the cadetship aimed at finishing your degree in 4 years? so if you were to commence your cadetship after your 2nd year, would they just make you work full time for the remaining 2 yrs? lol i dunno it would be hard to adjust the cadetship program to suit a 2nd year student

but im pretty sure that most of the people who apply for the vacation positions are mainly second years (and above).

 

[blackfriday]

Why?

why do cadetships suck ass? lets see..

1) you get paid less than a child care worker. (im a child care worker. i know)
2) working as a trainee is just debits and credits, well according to my friend who's doing a cadetship
3) the awesome-ness of uni social life is something you'll never experience at work (pointing the obvious out), but you wont be missing out on much if you do a hard double degree. i think its more important than you realise at this stage of pre-hsc naivety.

but with that said, cadetships do work out well for certain types of people. if you think sticking unearned revenue as a liability credit is stimulating fun, then go ahead.

 

[=candii=]

is the trainee grant you get when you commence full time study in addition to the full time salary you receive?

i.e. say you study full time for semester 1 - you receive a trainee grant and then you also receive your full time salary in semester 2 when you commence full time work?

 

[hieuh]

heyy everyone .. well I applied a cadetship in Nexia Court . although i didnt get any calls from them i recieved a sms from UTS Bacc of ACc . When i checked my email i couldn't find any messages from them . It's been 3 weeks since i received the sms . Do u think i should ring up Uts, Nexia Court . Any advice?

 

[seremify007]

why do cadetships suck ass? lets see..

1) you get paid less than a child care worker. (im a child care worker. i know)
2) working as a trainee is just debits and credits, well according to my friend who's doing a cadetship
3) the awesome-ness of uni social life is something you'll never experience at work (pointing the obvious out), but you wont be missing out on much if you do a hard double degree. i think its more important than you realise at this stage of pre-hsc naivety.

but with that said, cadetships do work out well for certain types of people. if you think sticking unearned revenue as a liability credit is stimulating fun, then go ahead.

1) Some people don't do it for the money- in the scheme of things; <$30k is not much for a full time 9-5 job; people do it for both the promotional opportunities and the experience. Once you graduate, you're already on a higher salary than normal grads; and this continues throughout the rest of your career- always being a little bit ahead of your colleagues who did not start on the cadetship. That being said, the difference in income (<$20k) each year may not be enough to deter some people from living uni life to the fullest.

2) It really depends what firm you're at. Some firms (eg. mine) which actually charge clients for us to be there, require us to do quite a bit of work. It ain't a walk in the park... and let's not forget, debits and credits aren't as easy as some people make them sound!

3) You raise a fair point- like I said in number 1, is the near-guaranteed job, better job prospects and higher salary worth sacrificing 1 year (equivilent) of socialising at uni? Remember, a cadetship is full time work for 2 years, full time study for 2 years. Also have to take into account that whilst you may work in your holidays, a lot of your peers who are serious about getting jobs in certain firms/companies will likely be working too- as vaccies; so it's not like you'll be missing out too much on the social life!

But like you said, some people thrive in the cadetship environment, and others can't stand the sudden change from a very light workload in high school, to a full time job with a lot of responsibility and commitment required.

is the trainee grant you get when you commence full time study in addition to the full time salary you receive?

i.e. say you study full time for semester 1 - you receive a trainee grant and then you also receive your full time salary in semester 2 when you commence full time work?

You get the trainee grant when you are not working.

Eg. If you are on 2+2 and assume that you start in January 2007;

2006: Full Time Salary
2007: Full Time Salary
2008-09: Study Grant for time when NOT working; Full Time Salary (proportionate) for when you DO work in your holidays

You don't receive both at the same time!

 

[seremify007]

heyy everyone .. well I applied a cadetship in Nexia Court . although i didnt get any calls from them i recieved a sms from UTS Bacc of ACc . When i checked my email i couldn't find any messages from them . It's been 3 weeks since i received the sms . Do u think i should ring up Uts, Nexia Court . Any advice?

I personally would give them a call. If it's been 3 weeks... they might've just misplaced your email or details.

 

[hieuh]

so u think i should call uts tommrow?

 

[sokolian]

hey im still in yr11 and my current business studies teacher used to work for ey from what ive heard from him ey seems like a cool place to work any way good luck to all you people who want jobs there and have a great life

 

[sxcsn]

ny1 got final round wif kpmg tmoro? I do so if ur there say hi...

 

[turtleface]

why do cadetships suck ass? lets see..

1) you get paid less than a child care worker. (im a child care worker. i know)
2) working as a trainee is just debits and credits, well according to my friend who's doing a cadetship
3) the awesome-ness of uni social life is something you'll never experience at work (pointing the obvious out), but you wont be missing out on much if you do a hard double degree. i think its more important than you realise at this stage of pre-hsc naivety.

but with that said, cadetships do work out well for certain types of people. if you think sticking unearned revenue as a liability credit is stimulating fun, then go ahead.

lol debits and credits is always associated with accounting
In auditng, I don't think you are allowed to Debit and Credit into other client's ERP systems.

That wouldn't be too bad...putting through dodged transactions and all. I think you can expect even worse, like referencing leadsheets (ugh), copying and pasting from excel (ugh) etc

But I guess its a case of what do you expect. As if a 1st year would be allowed to interpret whether a car really is worth $1 million or whether a hedge is effective enough to be recognised under AASB 139 or something.

 

[seremify007]

lol debits and credits is always associated with accounting
In auditng, I don't think you are allowed to Debit and Credit into other client's ERP systems.

That wouldn't be too bad...putting through dodged transactions and all. I think you can expect even worse, like referencing leadsheets (ugh), copying and pasting from excel (ugh) etc

But I guess its a case of what do you expect. As if a 1st year would be allowed to interpret whether a car really is worth $1 million or whether a hedge is effective enough to be recognised under AASB 139 or something.

Of course not. But then if you were a 1st year trainee, would you want to have such a responsibility?

What you said is true in regards to what audit involves; but IMO I don't think it's too bad. I actually get a *gasp* thrill out of finding mistakes!

 

[Meads]

I find my work social life extremely entertaining...similar if not better to the social life i would have if i was at uni full time. Its alot cheaper too...i can guarentee you.

 

[blackfriday]

my friend said his company put on a 10 grand bar tab - and it disappeared in half an hour

 

[hieuh]

Hey did anyone apply for a cadetship in Nexia Court (a much smaller firm compared to the Big 4). My friend recieved a rejection letter, but i haven't yet. Do you think there is a chance that I could be on the waiting list? . Please reply, cause ive been pretty anxious since i sent my application form.

 

[pmtruong]

i got an interview for nexia on monday but i cancelled it coz i was offered horwath. Anyways what i did was call up many of the firms a couple of days after the closing date of the applications if they didn send me a confirmation letter and jus asked if they had received my app yet. N e way nexia online app was stuffed i think coz they didn receive my online one so they emailed me an applicaiton form which i sent bak. i rekon u shood ring them.
has any 1 from pwc thursday private client services got an offer yet?

 

[hieuh]

So when you completed your application form. How long did you wait till they called you up?