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It would also disappear fast if my memory serves me right ?

Welcome to your own logic (1) This person claims they are a muslim. (2) They do not act the way we expect a muslim to act. (C) Therefore they are not a muslim. That is the logic you use on us when we claim Osama bin ladin is a muslim or whatever... I don't actually want to use that on...

It would be great, I am sure it would be debated many times... people would claim dating methods are ludacris etc etc... but eventually the logic might turn people around, as we will hopefully see with evolution.

They will claim they are following the koran and when we post up our own interpretations (or copies of interpretations done by islamic scholars even) they will claim that this interpretation is not correct. They will never give us an interpretation set in stone because then it can actually be...

I predict this course will go up by 102.

Of course, I believe UAI's are the best thing they have to predict the quality of the student. However it's alot easier when you're dealing with a large/equal samples to make such a claim... for instance I do believe you could say "On the whole, 98 uai students will on average perform better at...

I would agree parially with that, if we add to the analogy that it is using the financial statements of a company that operates in a large number of industries... and their performance there - to indicate their future performance operating in a different industry. The main problem I have...

Oh of course we shouldn't be rude, but there does occur times where you have to make a point that the other person might feel uncomfortable with. So you believe because you want to believe. While this is still a far more admirable admission than most theists, it still doesn't seem the best...

It was heads of the programme, I was worried that I could not perform as well as other students due to my lower uai than most of them... they told me that in their experience alot of students who barely make it through perform well. I believe their reference is transfer students, and of course...

Yes, that's exactly what the thread is for. IMO it is to open the eyes of the theists to the fact that their belief is only as valid as any other super-natural belief (it is less plausable than a belief in aliens) and that for many of them their conception of God IS logically impossible... if...

I would like to point out that so far the best argument for the existance of god in this thread has been presented by atheists... lolz. Allow me to post this up as a great / funny debate that downloads fast... http://drdino.activeforjesus.com/debates/shermer_Large.zip...

Yea wikipedia provides a good explanation... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_ontological_proof So there is definately some debate about this. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/theodore_drange/incompatible.html - for more.

mikeee, you can't simply say it was 'boring' and 'unmeaningful', you have to explain how it was boring - and how you would rectify this problem.

Yea I go to UWS parra.

It's a much more complex argument, i've looked into it since u posted it up and there are several problems with it that have been corrected etc, but there are still debates over it... I'm not sure how it will relate to proving the existance of the christian/muslim god tho, even if there is a...

Actually from all the open days I went to last year, the people I talked to expressed that they've found people who barely scrape into courses to be the hardest working people... they value the spot they have and don't just think 'LOL these guys got 8 less uai points than me! EASSSSSSY'...

So you made a claim without actually having anything to back it up with? Analogical reasoning. We can see that all religions that have been created recently (see: cults / new age movements..) were created by man, therefore we think it's safe to assume that they were probably all made by man...

Oh I respect them (I have less respect for them for being irrational), but I have close to 0 respect for their view.

hahahahha that's so cool. I hope it's the devil possessing the book, cuz ex0rcisms are real and we can excorsize teh book ! : D

They don't have reasonable grounding at all. What you're asking of me is to respect beliefs that have no good basis, reason, or logic behind them. It is similar to asking me to simply 'respect' the belief of people who claim they've seen elvis. No.