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I am being optimistic dude, I'm not down about missing out on my offer or anything man ;) My work experience was legally relevant, and they specifically ask about it in the questionaire. Yea. I'm taking a new approach and going to try to transfer to Arts at usyd, I'm going to try for graduate...

I just wanted to add the canberra bit so I didn't seem like I was sucking up to ANU students too much :P

I agree.. Sell SAM to schools, and keep offering it for free to students. Give them the SAM 'deluxe edition' or whatever to make them feel they're getting a better product.

The only way to stop it is to get rid of the uai system... :rolleyes:

Nah I know a few 'stories' at least of people at uws getting in with lower uai's.

It's impossible to predict really :/

Yea I find it kinda interesting too. Christians come here and attempt to present their case logically, then claim that it's pointless to do so and that you actually shouldn't attempt to justify it logically.. Then why do you actually do it? Just shut up and believe, don't bother with the rest...

Yea but I can supply a tonne of atheist books too... I don't really like recommending books or whatever, as interesting as they might be. Theists are more than welcomed to post up the arguments from the book/articles/whatever up here tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_University http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_University http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_College http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_University...

Ok... you are partially right. That is an agnostic world-view, that it is impossible to know truth for certain. Anyway, I wasn't saying that God can't exist... of course anything is possible, but I'm just saying that it's extremely unlikely, we are talking about unlikely up there in the terms...

Why do you have question marks against Brown and UPenn? UPenn has one of the best business degrees in the world :/

I call up UTS. I explained to them that I was uncertain as to why exactly I did not make it into my course, and I gave them all my circumstances... they understood this (they've delt with many of these cases) and put in a ticket for me at UAC (i believe). This guy then called me up a little...

Oh no, 'I believe because I belief' is a belief based on 'faith' (basically nothing). It's not a real logical reason to believe tho. Why not just.. not believe in God and REALLY step out of the box and question life? The possibility of the christian God, as most christians I gather imagine...

What I don't understand is, according to the uac admissions guy... I had more than enough marks to get into uts law (dfee). Yet they rejected me on the basis of my questionaire, claiming it wasn't good enough. This was very interesting considering I had work experience, previous law school...

I believe it was UAC because he knew my uni preferences, he knew all my marks and everything... I dunno if they give THAT much info to the uni's (or do they? :( )

He should call up man. The admission centre guy I talked to was honestly very helpful, he gave me all the info I wanted as to how exactly they calculated my marks and everything. Call up the uni (uts I guess?) tell them your problem, and they'll write up a ticket to the admissions centre to...

What so you don't believe that people believe in things just because that's their pre-concieved belief? You don't believe that the reason they don't bother questioning it properly might be because the belief its self gives them comfort? I don't understand where you find the problem.

Would you rather me do it at unsw? I mean... I could do it at uts (they don't offer it) or usyd... they're both just off the train from me. I've travelled to UNSW before and it is far... I'm going from Mulgoa out in 'the sticks' driving 15 minutes to penruff station and taking an hour by train...

I'm really surprised uws had vacancies at 85 uai... It's really not - that bad. Demandred is a smart bloke and he goes to UWS, alot of the students really are on the ball... I mean there are a few 'slack' people (me) but most people try hard, the lecturers really are quite intelligent (at least...

What? You really think that is 'easier'? It becomes a much more complicated ball game when nothing is truely right and wrong. Yea but that's just stupid, you believe because you believe... congratulations - that's not an answer.