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Well yes religion is a social influence... but I think they're after specifics look into the dover case etc.. http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=116

Given that there are apparently so many accidental shootings when you make weapons legal, how come this doesn't show up in australia statistics pre/post 1997? Yea and I don't think we should have unadultered access to guns - I just think having a gun for protection should be a legitimate...

There didn't seem to be an epidemic of that before howards gun control laws. If all these people were dying in tonnes of accidents before howards gun laws, I don't see the stats to support it.

all those shoes are shit.

Google did an investigation into this - there is video of the incident, however the photo of him with the shoe was copyright and has been removed off all the web etc lolz.

Well you can never provide 'without doubt' that another theory is correct.. and of course any theory which uses a supernatural power cannot be disproven (it's impossible) nor can they be even provisionally proven - so they are essentially useless. I agree that the modern theory of evolution...

So they've only discovered things that are unprovable? Personally I don't find discovering unprovable things all that awesome - but you know, it's all subjective lol

Well asking a question doesn't imply anything at all, however saying that something has been done for man kind is generally a positive sentence... you're doing something for someone.. the opposite being doing something against someone, or 'in spite of'... However lets get over that semantical...

So people have read the koran - and then gone on to use the korans teachings about something to discover something new in the world? Or have all the things discovered just been about um... things we couldn't actually test i.e. how god operates etc? Like do you have an example of a muslim reading...

I was asking you a question, I wasn't implying anything just getting all the premises sorted out.

I'm aware of that, but I am asking you for your answer of how these people have benefitted mankind.

Well when I said 'done something for man kind' I think it's fairly logical to assume i'm talking about doing something for the benefit of man kind, not something for man kind that is to its detriment. I was asking you whether you count achievement by the ammount of impact it makes... the use...

Well isn't something you've done an achievement?

I do I think it's fucking stupid. I was just joking mate I don't really think you're a faggot :o

So you count achievement by the ammount of impact it makes?

agree x10.

Um I don't see how influencing a whole bunch of muslims has really done anything for mankind? I mean perhaps it's done decent things for the religion but I don't see much of an application for their product - in the real world. i.e. what substance do they have to show for their work? what...

How is it an idiotic comment? he claimed that muslim scholars are not wasting their time by reading the koran 24/7, so I want to know what reading the koran has done for man kind - seems fair enough..

What great achievements for man kind have come about by studying the koran?

Why don't you suck the unions fat greasy cock then? Anyway, in case you haven't heard about VSU... here's the discussion -> http://community.boredofstudies.org/214/news-current-affairs-politics/62377/voluntary-student-unionism-good-bad.html?highlight=voluntary+student+unionism