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Yes but if the cuts aren't happening elsewhere the impact of our reductions would be comparatively greater than if they were already happening. The real tokenism would be if China, India, the UK, US, Canada and Japan all made massive cuts and then we just came along for the ride. And again...

Yes thankyou Your Holiness.

The pressures of a market based economy, the legacy of John Howard's brutopia touches every crack and every crevice of this great and noble land.

Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhnaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. I think most of us are resolutely opposed to the taking of human life, the debate is about where it begins to qualify as human life and that would make it a scientific debate.

Ugh no it's quite the opposite. If China, India, the United States, the EU, Canada and Japan all made drastic cuts to their emissions than the bulk of the crisis would have been averted and our own sacrifices would be nothing more than some field good tokenism. However with the US in...

You realize Swan is as bedded down in the AWU as Shorten? Perhaps more so, Shorten has a lot more clout in the union.

You're a lot more likable when you make no contribution of your own you know Silvy.

The clueless leader also is prone to tell porkies on fairly big matters. I recall him saying that he would not nominate for the coalition leadership if Hockey did too. Presumably the change of mind coincided with his discovering he had enough numbers to win (or close to it, I doubt he knew he...

I referred to the insinuation that people should vote for Abbott as Gillard is untrustworthy. I would vote Tory at the next election if Bishop were leader.

You imply the alternative is more trustworthy.

Whether this is morally correct or not is irrelevant? What the fuck are you?

Well between Swan, Crean, Emerson and Burke and their "helpful" statements, the damage inflicted to the image of the first two years of this Labor government is probably enough to sink the ship. But yeah, if this government now starts to recover in the polls Rudd's whole crusade is undermined...

Of course it hasn't, Rudd's play was effectively to say to caucus, "I dare you to defy the overwhelming view of the voting public on this and re-elect her" they did, now the real destabilization commences. Up until now Rudd was really just about presenting her as inferior to him, now it's about...

Those scottish guys that Cassie ended up with at one point were quite good looking too.

If one offs count the most attractive girl was the one Tony meets on the University open day. I think it was implied that she was merely a part of Tony's subconscious though.

Mitch Hewer then daylight.

Isn't he credited for cleaning up corruption in the NSW police which more or less recommenced the day he left office?

That's different, QLD Labor isn't nearly so gotten at by backroom faction dealings and jobs for the boys.

Carr and Kenneally, because the legacy of NSW Labor is so very popular. Surprised they didn't offer it to Tripodi.

Wear it is a badge of honour.