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No not really, my originally contention was that India wont invade us because they're a democracy and dog don't eat dog, I stand by it.

If by threat you mean they are capable of bullying us then yes, if you mean to suggest they have any great intention of doing so, nope.

Wait, so you're defending the Labor factional apparatus, that which Gillard herself used to call a cancer on democracy, back when Latham was leader and before she realized they could do her favours?

Everyone except Gillard and Swan.

A Pakistani democracy? What where the people vote and the military knock off the leader a weak later if they don't like him or her?

Ha! More like it had to do with trade union hacks like Don Farrell and David Feeney resenting that they were being boxed out of the main policy deliberations.

I'm away but even flawed democracies have tended against warring with each other historically.

I think it is Rudd's very arrogance which will convince him that he can take back the leadership, sweep to victory and become a hero. He knows he's more popular than Abbott.

yeeeaannoooo it isn't.

India is a democracy though, unlike China.

I don't imagine she'll be leader in November, much less at the next election.

OMG shutup! Also heard it on radio, Smithy says no.

I think the traditional line is proxy line for a fierce, hateful she (and others, Albrechtsen for example who is an anti gay atheist) holds for for people who don't conform to her perceived archetypal Australian. If you removed industrial relations from the equation she would have infinitely...

Is your last name Iriving?

The feelings mutual. Gillard?

Ok well here's the thing, I consider the political spectrum to be a relative science, I don't view things as being inherently left or right wing and so if you aren't considering any of the Labor Prime Ministers sans Whitlam left wing either than I can accept you're view that Rudd is but I would...

You're full of it. Howard and Downer publicly and privately backed Indonesia consistently during the East Timor independence phases and stood idly by for ages whilst the militias were killing everybody in sight till Clinton strongarmed Howard into leading an intervention which did not...

Not really, most of the leaks we've gotten through Laurie Oakes, Lenore Taylor and Nicholas Stuart suggest that the bulk of the Labor party were a lot more hesitant when it came to Climate action, reconciliation, stimulus and asylum seekers than Rudd and he more or less just road roughshod over...

I'm one of the mob I'm allowed (not the atheist bit obviously). I've been involved in a number of the rallies and media campaigns and there is this odd phenomenon whereby for some reason people who oppose it on religious grounds seem to be considered more offensive than people who oppose it on...

You really are a fuckwit sometimes.