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Stop fucking around with animals (in both senses) you cunts. Utilitarian humanism still applies to animals, even if you give them fewer rights. Thread closed.

Re: Barrack OBama or John Mccain? I agree. I don't think the conservatives want to acknowledge that, though. Tyranny and violence still exist, but they're the exception, not the rule, and they are slowly dying out. OK dude, we all know how much I hate free market extremists, but you're just...

Re: Barrack OBama or John Mccain? OK dude, we all know how much I hate free market extremists, but you're just being ridiculous here. Free markets work. It's no secret that economic prosperity supplants violence and that education increases socio-economic status. It won't solve the problem...

Re: Barrack OBama or John Mccain? Um, NATO would do it mostly, not the UN, dude.

Re: Barrack OBama or John Mccain? Well said.

Re: Barrack OBama or John Mccain? Iraq is not like Soviet Afghanistan, and nobody is suggesting we abandon them to the dogs. :)

My avatar is also from SomethingAwful. I visit when somebody directs me to the occasional insightful gem there. I used to follow the pranks section and JeffK when I was a kid. I especially liked Lowtax's ICQ space robot prank. I frequent there about once every 3 months. It's one of the...

It's not about the Taliban? So why then should we be in Iraq? Al-Qeada activity increased when we split our forces between Afghanistan and Iraq.

Obama's policy on the matter is sensible. Barring no major escalations, withdraw from Iraq over 2 years, leave a peace-keeper crew, and focus on rebuilding Afghanistan and fighting the Pakistan-backed Taliban. Obama ridiculed Bush for not entering Pakistan to stop the Taliban in 2006 (at the...

So this is you, right?

So you think Iraq is a threat to global security?

Yeah, you say that every time I point out the flaws of McCain. Why is that?

So instead of avoiding my question, why don't you answer it? I didn't ask for a justification for troops in SK and Japan. I asked you why you think Iraq is similar to SK and Japan, which are justified.

No, I'm pretty sure the Democrats plan to withdraw from Iraq and focus on Afghanistan. Also, the full quote: "I don't think Americans are concerned if we're there [Iraq] for 100 years or 1,000 years or 10,000 years." --John McCain

No, burden of proof can be a fallacy, too, if it is as impractical as you describe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(logical_fallacy)

And you think the situation in Iraq is similar to the one in Japan or South Korea?

Most people i know who are barracking for McCain are just idiots who have no idea about American politics or the current world situation and only want him cos he is right-wing conservative, and he is the only one they have heard about Everyone sensible that i know wants Obama

Yeah what with his plan to be in Iraq for 100 years?

Ignoring radioactivity, I'm pretty sure nuclear is also just plain cleaner (pollution-wise) than coal, yes?

Starcraftmazter you utter deadshit. Look up a thing called logistic growth, for a start.