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GE 2:15-23, 3:1-5, 1TI 2:14 Eve was created after Adam had already been given the prohibition about eating the forbidden fruit. Eve believed the serpent (the craftiest of all of God's wild creatures) when he assured her that she would become wise and would not die if she ate the fruit. Eve has...

And you think Australia would be the same, there'd be no, no moral outrage here? P.S. Never mentioned societal collapse. Our rate of mental illness has risen immensely in the past 200 years, but there's been no societal collapse. The two aren't causally linked.

Oh, it should be fines, not imprisonment, except for repeated offenders (as a form of discouragement).

I could continue this for a while (e.g. post-puberty, non-penetrative, not feel violated because sex isn't inherently stupid or dangerous), but quite frankly I feel dirty for playing devil's advocate to paedophilia. I'll leave it with: bestiality certainly isn't as clear cut as being a case of...

Basically: you call it rape to justify calling it abuse. You call it abuse to justify calling it wrong. You call it wrong to justify why vilification of paedophilia isn't arbitrary. Yet, you never actually explained why it is 'rape'; rape implies lack of consent, yet didn't we establish there...

OK, again, why would it be sexual abuse? We've established that hypothetically, society doesn't consider sex with minors bad, much like you began this thread hypothetically with it not considering bestiality bad. What does that leave? We're taking a loving relationship which is consensual...

Haha, but you gotta admit, the Russian economy would still collapse, and the country would still go into Chaos.

How do you account for all the things the Bible gets wrong, then?

Isn't that subjective? Why, removing societal vilification of paedophilia, would their mature self see a loving sexual relationship when they were younger as wrong? This is silly, and yet, it's poignant, because while it doesn't apply to a borderline sociopath like sthcross.dude, you on the...

Why? I did specify the consensual and loving subset. Do you contend children can't consent? See below. I already said consenting situations. You're free to argue that consent in children is an illusion, but blindly saying the equivalent of "all children dislike sex" only holds as "common...

Homosexuality involves two people - it's a relationship. Bestiality is not. There are definite mental health concerns for something like bestiality (especially considering the fact that it likely arises from the negative mental state of loneliness). Concerns which don't apply to masturbation...

Yeah, that's where the analogy diverges - sapience and sentience. People take the assumption that an animal's mental state is fixed, whilst a child's may not be. But if I wanted to play Devil's advocate for paedophilia, it'd be easy to argue that: "The only reason a child would feel differently...

Holy shit you're not messing around. It totally IS her daughter's baby. This is epic!

While it heartens me that you disagree with me, since you're a fairly vile individual who I am pleased to be dissimilar to, you're wrong: Paedophilia is quite a valid analogy. The only significant difference is sapience and sentience. If somebody is pro-bestiality, they logically should hold a...

That's an interesting perspective. :)

Um, as I said: If somebody wants to fuck an animal, they can go ahead and try. Right now, they have to deal with the law if they do, though, and that won't change any time in the next 100 years. I'm sure you could come up with an example where you think paedophilia is loving, consensual and...

If somebody wants to fuck an animal, they can go ahead and try. Right now, they have to deal with the law if they do, though, and that won't change any time in the next 100 years.

Meh, don't bother. I'm not going to post in this thread again. As long as the majority of the population feels empathy towards animals it's not worth my time dealing with the sociopathic portion (which I'm not saying you are, but I really don't have patience for you playing devil's advocate...

lol. Hilarious.

Argue away. Most people can tell you that it does, however. Anybody willing to be a moral nihilist for animals is barely divorced from moral nihilism for humans.