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This has already been discussed at length in this thread. Even if the argument holds up, it only provides a case for deism. You still have all your work ahead of you if you want to believe in a particular god or gods. This, of course, implies that the argument overcomes the problems with it...

So for a homosexual person, "indulging" in their sexuality with which they were born is a sin. So if you're born gay, you have to be truly sorry for the "sin" that God gives you at birth in order to be forgiven? What kind of crazy logic is that?

Firstly: May I remind you that your continued attempts at expressing your intellectual superiority over me do not constitute argument of any sort. They just make you look arrogant and insecure. I didn't claim that time is an "illusion", all I said was that it is conceivable that time began with...

Consider the possibility (and it is very possible) that time began with the creation of the universe. If this is true, there is no possibility that the universe did not exist, at any point in time. This makes the universe necessary as it is impossible for it to not exist, and things that are...

Probably because uneducated idiots like me keep challenging the

Talk about copy-and-pasting.

Can I deal with burden of proof here quickly. The problem with my original post (and this is as a result of the rhetoric I used) is that it sort of assumes that the initial position is that God exists, and therefore I must "prove" he doesn't. I don't think this is accurate and I want to clear up...

Pretty much. If God is omnipotent, omniscient it shouldn't matter where the suffering originates, it is still in God's power to stop it. The analogy suggests that we do not know for ourselves what is or is not suffering, that we are like little children who do not understand the concept of...

I feel like I'm repeating myself. Let me (once again, exactly like I did in my last post) make my position clear, as follows: I am not claiming that God is "evil" because he allows evil in the world (you put these words in my mouth). I am claiming that reality does not match the...

lol imagine a Margaret (aka maggot) Grove extension 3 textbook

Yeah righto hit me up

Ok. Perhaps one or both of us is not getting our message across properly. Let me see if I can sum up what I am saying. 1. If we accept that God is as the Bible describes him, he is benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient. 2. A benevolent God would not allow suffering, because God has the power...

Yes it is, here's the solution: http://www.theshovel.com.au/2014/05/14/poor-people-scrapped/

If I'm such a waste of your time I wonder why you keep replying. Perhaps in the morning I'll think about your latest response more fully. For now, let me say that we can have this debate without the personal attacks, all you're doing is making yourself look defensive through trying to portray...

I did not make this claim. What I said was that the attributes given to God in the Bible (and other Holy Books) of love and kindness, contradict the reality of the world we live in. This is not a claim, it's simply an observation of a contradiction in the argument for a specific God. I've been...

Firstly I think it's great that your beliefs give you motivation and happiness. I don't mind at all what you believe, and you're free to believe whatever you like, but it's not really the point of the thread. Just because something makes us feel good or gives us motivation does not mean it is...

So I've skipped the patronising bit at the beginning, let's start here: It seems we have an issue with burden of proof here. What you seem to be doing is saying that God has "infinite Divine wisdom", and unless I can prove otherwise, it must be true. I cannot see this as anything but a logical...

Have a real holiday at the end of this term. Meaning, don't think about study or school and go and enjoy yourself. That way you'll be rested and mentally prepared when you start Year 12 next term. One thing I've found that has helped me throughout the year is to set a list of milestones that...

Is it an argument, or is it not? I didn't mention Christopher Hitchens. And atheism is a religion in the same way that off is a TV channel. If you don't even understand the definition of atheism I'm afraid I can't take you very seriously. Perhaps they are irrelevant if you take a deistic...

I've heard from a former top public servant that ANU has the best reputation. Any thoughts? If you were going to study Economics at uni where would you apply?