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Who would you vote for?

  • Labor

    Votes: 25 39.7%
  • Liberal/National coalition

    Votes: 12 19.0%
  • Greens

    Votes: 26 41.3%

  • Total voters
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Im still in shock at that graph. I guess if you really look at it, the Coalition's strategy was just woeful when you look at the details. The goal of an election is to win seats not just votes. Here is where they had no plan. They clearly gave up on the Teal seats, which would have required a fiscally conservative, socially moderate approach. Instead, it seems they decided to target the outer suburban seats. However, that is very difficult to do with their policy mix. For example, cutting Public Sector jobs and WFH. Most Public Servants live in the outer suburbs (NOT Canberra per se) and the people who most benefit from WFH are those in the outer suburbs. On top of that, the Coalition's Nuclear plan centred on building Nuclear plants in outer suburban areas and no one wants to live near one of those things.

I can already see the Sky News set (Credlin, Panahi and Bolt) saying you dont win elections by being Labor-lite, but this is just completely tone-deaf. The Abbott/Newman governments went full conservative and they were universally unpopular. Im not saying you need to move to the centre by any means, but you need to pick a strategy and ensure your policies target the right people. The Coalition campaign picked an audience but then decided on a campaign which isolated them and targeted a completely different audience. Madness. It was an awful campaign that clearly didnt resonate.
So much good liberal leadership has been lost that I don't even know how they can recover. People like Keith Wolahan, Michael Sukkar, and Josh Frydenberg (who lost his seat last election), could have led the party but instead have been booted from politics. Labor doesn't seem to be depleting talent but gaining it, whilst the liberals can't seem to rebuild the talent pool they need to create a new government. At this rate, Australia might become a place like Victoria or the ACT where politics centers on Labor and the Liberals act as a sideshow.
 

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So much good liberal leadership has been lost that I don't even know how they can recover. People like Keith Wolahan, Michael Sukkar, and Josh Frydenberg (who lost his seat last election), could have led the party but instead have been booted from politics. Labor doesn't seem to be depleting talent but gaining it, whilst the liberals can't seem to rebuild the talent pool they need to create a new government. At this rate, Australia might become a place like Victoria or the ACT where politics centers on Labor and the Liberals act as a sideshow.
I can fix them
 

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I don't get the logic behind his nuclear thing. isn't nuclear energy kinda of left wing save the environment acknowledging climate change exists blue hair woke leftist agenda because its more sustainable, reduces Co2 or wtv but he also wanted to expand coal mines. but wouldn't nuclear energy mean less coal mines. I don't understand politics
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Basically nuclear is an expensive, long, and bureaucracy-heavy investment that isn't best suited to Australia's strengths. Other sources of renewables are cheaper and are things Australia can achieve on a mass scale. It's not that nuclear is bad, but it's a waste of resources that could be used more efficiently.
 

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Basically nuclear is an expensive, long, and beurocratic-intensive investment that isn't best suited to Australia's strengths. Other sources of renewables are cheaper and are things Australia can achieve on a mass scale. It's not that nuclear is bad, but it's a waste of resources that could be used more efficiently.
okay yea ik that, that's why I'm asking why they would even want that. like how did they promote it. all my political propaganda is from trumpet of patriots so I'm uneducated on this
 

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a vote for the liberals is a vote for pauline hanson. one nation is hate speech. vote 1 trumpet of patriots to oppose hate

a real message from suellen wrightson
NAH IN ONE AD THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE THEY/THEMS I WAS PISSING MYSELF
 

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okay yea ik that, that's why I'm asking why they would even want that. like how did they promote it. all my political propaganda is from trumpet of patriots so I'm uneducated on this
The liberals would say they wanted nuclear cause it was a more durable and reliable investment than renewables. Imo they wanted it so coal could whimper it's final dying breath before net neutral energy arrives in the country.
 

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I don't get the logic behind his nuclear thing. isn't nuclear energy kinda of left wing save the environment acknowledging climate change exists blue hair woke leftist agenda because its more sustainable, reduces Co2 or wtv but he also wanted to expand coal mines. but wouldn't nuclear energy mean less coal mines. I don't understand politics
In a nutshell, the issue with nuclear power is mainly disposal of the waste which isnt the greatest for the environment. Also, creating and integrating nuclear power into our grid would be extremely expensive and time consuming. Australia does not have the skills or infrastructure to support it because we missed the boat in the early years of nuclear power. It would just be outrageously expensive to implement here.

So much good liberal leadership has been lost that I don't even know how they can recover. People like Keith Wolahan, Michael Sukkar, and Josh Frydenberg (who lost his seat last election), could have led the party but instead have been booted from politics. Labor doesn't seem to be depleting talent but gaining it, whilst the liberals can't seem to rebuild the talent pool they need to create a new government. At this rate, Australia might become a place like Victoria or the ACT where politics centers on Labor and the Liberals act as a sideshow.
So true, I feel this is going to be a repeat of the Howard years where a decent but non-spectacular government stays in power for a while due to a lack of competition. Howard was a good PM dont get me wrong, but his legend is exaggerated when you look at the competition he faced (Beazley, Crean and Latham). The Labor party at the time was heavily depleted from the Hawke/Keating years. It wasnt until a popular Opposition Leader in Kevin Rudd emerged that Howard was seriously challenged.

i cant believe jacinta price tried to claim last night that her "make australia great again" hat was taken out of context 😭
Denial is a river in Egypt and dont we all love the idealogues captaining the steamships strait down that river.
 

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Im still in shock at that graph. I guess if you really look at it, the Coalition's strategy was just woeful when you look at the details. The goal of an election is to win seats not just votes. Here is where they had no plan. They clearly gave up on the Teal seats, which would have required a fiscally conservative, socially moderate approach. Instead, it seems they decided to target the outer suburban seats. However, that is very difficult to do with their policy mix. For example, cutting Public Sector jobs and WFH. Most Public Servants live in the outer suburbs (NOT Canberra per se) and the people who most benefit from WFH are those in the outer suburbs. On top of that, the Coalition's Nuclear plan centred on building Nuclear plants in outer suburban areas and no one wants to live near one of those things.

I can already see the Sky News set (Credlin, Panahi and Bolt) saying you dont win elections by being Labor-lite, but this is just completely tone-deaf. The Abbott/Newman governments went full conservative and they were universally unpopular. Im not saying you need to move to the centre by any means, but you need to pick a strategy and ensure your policies target the right people. The Coalition campaign picked an audience but then decided on a campaign which isolated them and targeted a completely different audience. Madness. It was an awful campaign that clearly didnt resonate.
Dude you were literally praising Dutton's strategy as recently as February lmao
 

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In a nutshell, the issue with nuclear power is mainly disposal of the waste which isnt the greatest for the environment.
Nuclear waste is problem solved over half a century ago

It's an "issue" because the anti-nuclear left block any efforts to do anything with the waste, regardless of how safe

Then because you "can't" do anything with it, they say "see! Nuclear waste is a big problem!"

You process the waste and store it encased in resin in underground repositories, which will usually be redundant underground mines. Extremely low risk, proven technology.

The left's hysteria around this is literally more anti-scientific than climate change denial

The real reason nuclear isn't an option for Australia (at the moment) is because it's extremely expensive and depends on a network of expertise and infrastructure that don't exist. We should have built a nuclear industry 50 years ago, but the hysterical anti-nuclear left made sure this was impossible, with the consequence being untold hundreds of millions of tonnes of CO2 being released to the atmosphere than there otherwise would have been.
 

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??????

im pretty sure this is what everyone is saying???? idk what ur on about with hysteria
Look at the thing I literally quoted you pea-brained sissy

"In a nutshell, the issue with nuclear power is mainly disposal of the waste which isnt the greatest for the environment."
Nuclear waste storage being some massive issue is a product of left-wing hysteria

i think youll find that nuclear is a pretty left wing thing

its just not worth it right now
You are fucking clueless lmao

They have always opposed it

There have been left-wing terrorist attacks or threats when nuclear storage sites have attempted to be built

The left have always hated nuclear, especially in Australia

Fucking educate yourself lol

 

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