anti-semitism and the left????? (2 Viewers)

[herbs1]

you heard it here first

israel>hitler in regards to atrocities

 

[Garygaz]

literally imagine if we nuked that whole region, i know people joke about it, but just imagine it.. albeit for a brief, beautiful second. after they are all gone, we can send in some american patriots in nuclear safe suits to continue drilling for the oil that the world needs (lets be honest its the only reason anyone in the world puts of with the shit that comes out of that part of the world).

 

[Garygaz]

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

opinion = fact hurrrdurr

 

[firstneg]

I'm completely left and disgusted at places like Saudi Arabia that adopt an almost tribal approach to laws and in essence I am boycotting it by refusing to drive? hahaha
But the Balfour Declaration says

it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country

which is clearly not happening.
There are a lot of problems all through the World. Israel is just such an easy target because their poor actions justified by 'Zionism' are so blatant.

 

[herbs1]

remember those times that the arab league tried to invade israel lol

 

[Lolsmith]

Balfour Declaration

Putting that Modern History to use eh

 

[firstneg]

Putting that Modern History to use eh

lol no I don't even do Modern

 

[cosmo kramer]

thanks for the info ibbi =) i think u might be right tbh

 

[firstneg]

hmm

Eight people were wounded in south Tel Aviv early Monday when a Palestinian man from the West Bank city

how very topical http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/terror-attack-in-tel-aviv-leaves-eight-wounded-1.381250

 

[LonelyWolf]

wtf is rong wif israel?

 

[Lolsmith]

others having it worst is debatable http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...remains-among-the-worst-in-the-world-1.367580

you're making it out as if arabs approve of all the things you mentioned. all these isolated incidents do no compare to the collective imprisonment of 1.6 million people in gaza.

the difference between iran and israel is that iran does not proclaim itself as a democratic state nor does it invoice its military bills to the american tax payer, doesn't continue to build illegal settlements, doesn't oversee the collective imprisonment of 1.6 million people and above all, doesn't use the holocaust as a pretext for its crimes.

i don't see why you guys have be in denial; you can write volumes about israel's violations of international law. i can give you links about this all day.

can you even read

I said that none of those things were good and I said that Muslims and Leftists shrugged them off like they don't even matter, exactly like what you're doing right now which is proving my point as both of the above things.

So what if it declares itself a democratic state, shouldn't you care just as much as achieving democracy in autocratic and theocratic States to reach at least some greater liberty for some people instead of the military/religious elite? Aren't they imprisoning their citizens under the fist of tyranny just as much as Israel? I'd posit they are, but because America is involved it's somehow so much worse? Are you retarded or just trolling

The whole point of this is that a lot of us don't understand the rabid interest and hatred of Israel. I personally think it's because it is a Jewish State that is doing this to a Muslim majority and we all know how you guys feel about Jews.

 

[Lolsmith]

also trying to tell me that thousands murdered in Syria by the government over months to curb peaceful protesting is isolated incidents and somehow that makes them not bad enough to care about

 

[Lolsmith]

That's not what I'm saying

What I'm trying to say is that the aforementioned types don't actually care about the Syrian or Iranian governments doing the exact same thing as Israel and you're only continuing to prove that point. The absolute hypocrisy in this is deplorable and quite frankly only makes sense to be rooted in either anti-Semitism or anti-democratic leanings.

If Israel didn't exist, you wouldn't be staging protests against Iranian or Syrian actions because you don't give a shit because they aren't Jews or Americans victimising Muslims.

 

[funkshen]

To be quite honest, to deride someone for not devoting their efforts 'fairly' between Israel and authoritarian Middle Eastern regimes is completely facile. First of all, it's a total infinite regression: How can you protest A when you don't even protest B!? What about C? D? E? F - Z? The entire point of activism is to hone in on a specific issue; in this case, the focus is on the "shameful actions" of Israel, which is purported to be a bastion of Western democratic ideals, surrounded on all sides by barbarians.

Also, the returns to activism when protesting tyrannical regimes are much lower; even if one attempted it, it's very hard for such protests to gain any real traction, given: the traditionally lower responsiveness of authoritarian regimes to international humanitarian pressure, and also our insatiable national thirsts for delicious, delicious oil, and Middle Eastern stability.

all that said I don't really give a fuck about Israel. it is in the nature of the state to do shit things, deal with it

edit: also can people please stop falling for Lolsmith's strawmans?

 

[Piter]

i dont think the theory that the left hate everybody who does better than brown people has that much credence

they dont hate oriental east asians for instance though they do vent out occasionally about the persistent never dying xenophobia that exists in industrialised, ultra-successful oriental countries

I think they do get pissed at East Asian success re: university/college, and yeah I recently noticed people saying how racist Japan is but seriously who could ever hate East Asians? Its just white people then.

 

[80bjws]

arabs are also semites
jews are apologists
read henry fords book the international jew and get inlightened
the final solution is the only solution
IT NEVER HAPPENED!

 

[Azure]

Lol "80bjws".

 

[cosmo kramer]

i long for the day when henry ford will rise again and lead the wasps across the red sea to escape the slavery of jew pharaoh

 

[Lolsmith]

edit: also can people please stop falling for Lolsmith's strawmans?

:')

To be quite honest, to deride someone for not devoting their efforts 'fairly' between Israel and authoritarian Middle Eastern regimes is completely facile. First of all, it's a total infinite regression: How can you protest A when you don't even protest B!? What about C? D? E? F - Z? The entire point of activism is to hone in on a specific issue; in this case, the focus is on the "shameful actions" of Israel, which is purported to be a bastion of Western democratic ideals, surrounded on all sides by barbarians.

My argument was more to social conversational arguments, probably terribly expressed. I've had discussions with a bunch of people on the issues of Israel and what not and, like I said before, they literally ignore what I bring up about any other nation doing the same thing, but froth at the mouth over Israel. I realise that putting physical effort into protesting and that sort of activism is a completely different ball game.

Also, the returns to activism when protesting tyrannical regimes are much lower; even if one attempted it, it's very hard for such protests to gain any real traction, given: the traditionally lower responsiveness of authoritarian regimes to international humanitarian pressure, and also our insatiable national thirsts for delicious, delicious oil, and Middle Eastern stability.

I'm talking about Socialist Alliance types who usually don't care about oil or economics or anything like that.

all that said I don't really give a fuck about Israel. it is in the nature of the state to do shit things, deal with it

This

that's debatable m8

congrats on maintaining some civility

 

[Piter]

Which of their international law violations are really that bad? Building a wall that stopped suicide bombers is against international law. Pragmatics > boring moral stuff.