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like the title says, which business course is best?
i've been reading posts that says international business is good, but it doesn't have a very big job market. so which business course is best to do if you don't want to end up on the streets busking for food? and which uni do you think?
 

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Probably accounting, any uni would do

Come on, even ppl who don't finish high school has a very high chance of not having to busk in the streets for food ;)
 

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Like suvat said. Accounting. It has one of the biggest job markets out there. You can even find a job in your first year at uni, if you put the effort into findiong one.
 

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Yeah, that's a kick ass degree, but I think crikket is refering to undergraduate options...
 

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I agree with other people, Accounting is probably the best degree to do because of its prospects, marketing and HRM have good prospects too (im not including actuaries here)
 

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Suvat said:
Yeah, that's a kick ass degree, but I think crikket is refering to undergraduate options...
yup, undergraduate
i know accounting 's got alot of jobs but wont it be really competitive because of all the people who do accounting at uni AND at tafe?
 

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Suvat said:
Probably accounting, any uni would do

Come on, even ppl who don't finish high school has a very high chance of not having to busk in the streets for food ;)
damnations, i already bought myself a bum hat! :D
jk jk
thanks for your input guys :p
 

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Minai said:
I agree with other people, Accounting is probably the best degree to do because of its prospects, marketing and HRM have good prospects too (im not including actuaries here)
Ahh, actuarial studies isn't a bad option. And it's hard to busk on the streets with the current Dole System we have in place :p
 

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Crikket: Not really, since every sector of the economy needs an accountant. The competition will heat up though, in top tier firms. :)
 

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B Com (Lib St) Syd.

the highest level undergraduate business degree available in the country
 

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D Day said:
B Com (Lib St) Syd.

the highest level undergraduate business degree available in the country
hmm its more of a generalist degree I think
if you want to focus on say, accounting, then a straight commerce degree would be better

now that I think of it, a degree with one of the best prospects would be the B.Accounting at UTS, its hard to get into, because u need a high UAI (like 97+) and successful interview and portfolio etc, as I think there's scholarships involved
 

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er no, cause if u major in accounting, say, then u have exactly the same talents as one with a straight commerce degree, HOWEVER, u have research, analytical and communication skills that are unique to the science and humanities subjects that do not occur in any business or eco subjects. u know u have to study differently in humanities an science subjects, so does ur next boss. it makes u an all rounder

employers know this and will bid higher for a potential employee who have skills and knowledge in broader areas rather than a specialised person.

as for that uts acct degree, could u do acct for the rest of ur life? anyway it only required 93 UAI not 97+. (i was offered a place, but rejected it)
 

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you dont need a liberal studies degree to have good communication skills, thats up to the person
and as for research, an honours degree would look far better than a liberal studies tack on.

employers go for all-rounded persons yes, but they do want people that are specialised for what they are after (most of the time)
if we are talking only about graduate prospects in specific fields of business (ie, tax, accounting, HRM, finance) of a person with a liberal studies degree, and one with a straight commerce degree, there wont be any real difference on paper, its up to the person and how they go in the different stages of their interviews. (also, the Big4 accounting firms hire more UNSW and UTS graduates than USyd, which would include Liberal studies graduates..theres an article on this floating about this site)

although, I agree a liberalstudies commerce degree would be much more enjoyable and make you a more all-rounded academic because of the diversity and depth of subject choice
 

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yes but let's just say it everything else was equal, then the B Com (Lib St) degree is better than any specialist or B Com degree.

oh about the communication and research skills, yes its up to the person and u can do honours, but my point was that the humanities and science offer different skills to that of business, and it is these additional skills complementing business subjects skills that employers r looking for in the higher paid positions. sure specialised ppl get hired faster and will get paid the more, but that's only in the short term. over time a generalist degree will earn more. plus if gives u broader career paths.

as for the specialist skills, c'mon do u really think u can stay in the one area for the rest of ur life? an avg persons changes career paths 4 times in their lives. a specialist degree is good for employers, but not for u.

say what u like about unsw or uts, u know ppl at usyd will think otherwise
 

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Minai said:
you dont need a liberal studies degree to have good communication skills, thats up to the person
and as for research, an honours degree would look far better than a liberal studies tack on.

employers go for all-rounded persons yes, but they do want people that are specialised for what they are after (most of the time)
if we are talking only about graduate prospects in specific fields of business (ie, tax, accounting, HRM, finance) of a person with a liberal studies degree, and one with a straight commerce degree, there wont be any real difference on paper, its up to the person and how they go in the different stages of their interviews. (also, the Big4 accounting firms hire more UNSW and UTS graduates than USyd, which would include Liberal studies graduates..theres an article on this floating about this site)

although, I agree a liberalstudies commerce degree would be much more enjoyable and make you a more all-rounded academic because of the diversity and depth of subject choice

who are the big4?
do they actually take USyd graduates?
 

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The big 4 accounting firms are PwC, KMPG, Ernst & Young and Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu

Yes, they do take a lot of usyd grads, but last year (or whatever year the stats minai posted were from), they took more grads from unsw and uts than usyd (from memory, 52 from unsw, 41 from uts and 36 from usyd). IMO, grads from these 3 unis are equally regarded, and it comes down to personal attributes since the main point of the article was about how going to a SMALLER uni affects ppl's chances of getting in.
 

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