what TYPE of school do u go to? (2 Viewers)

[bawd]

Re: Public School vs. Private

heh~ yea facilities are most likely better in private schools because of extra funding from students..

i think that even if u try and put in the same amount of work, public school teachers have less resources to teach their students (due to school fudning/ their own efforts) so unless you even go the way of finding information on the whole syllabus it's quite a significant negative, and generally i feel that public school teachers are more lazy, u can't give too much extra stuff for them to mark- they get tired of u after a while (generally, they seem to give less class tests as well so they don't need to mark as much) ><'

just some thoughts~ a lot is just due to funding.. and that private schools happen to have more money to spend ^^'

I agree that having good facilities means greater access to information and as a result, potential to produce smarter students etc. However, I strongly disagree with the notion that Public School teachers are 'lazy'. From personal experience I have found my teachers to be engaging and willing to teach, and constantly encouraging us to do our own secondary reading/studying to get the better hand. And don't forget that the top school in the state, James Ruse, is a Public School.

Not to mention, State Funding for schools is skewed towards Private schools, who despite already getting money from students, also get more funds from the state government. This becomes an issue in terms of allocation of resources and is completely biased, as funding should be equal for all schools.

 

[wuddie]

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i think everything ranging from the level of access to facilities and information, the qualities of the teachers, to the reputation of the school, have a relatively minor impact on the student's marks, compare to the student's motivation and willingness to do well himself. i went to a school which didn't boast the greatest of teaching staff, yet a few of my mates did extremely well with their marks - goes to show that you can achieve anything if you wanted to.

 

[Aplus]

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I'll start by saying i HATE people like Ja'mie King from We can be heroes who are utterly convinced that Private School education is way above Public Education. It's a joke. The majority of people who go to Private schools are dumb shits who are planning to rely on their parents and their money in the future.

Both types of education are just as good as eachother - there is NO real difference.

Too bad the character was an exaggerated parody of realistic societal interactions and if it was reflective of any values held by people in the Private Schools' Education system, then it represented a minority.

 

[ari89]

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Not to mention, State Funding for schools is skewed towards Private schools, who despite already getting money from students, also get more funds from the state government. This becomes an issue in terms of allocation of resources and is completely biased, as funding should be equal for all schools.

You are aware that because private school students teachers pay tax and school fees they are paying for their child's education twice?

We should punish parents for putting extra funds towards their child's education

 

[u-borat]

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Meh, I go to a private school, and I quite dislike the mentality that resides in most of the school.
Real difference to the public school friends I have...
But then, I wouldn't want to send my children to a selective school either, I know people in them too, and its just too academically based.

So yeah, if I could choose again, I'd probably choose either a less grand private school, or one of the better public non selective schools out there...

 

[liam9519]

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Not quiite on the topic but I'll put it this way..

Private schools are just businesses. Their primary intention is to get as much business as they possibly can, in order to maximise their profits.

They do this in three ways:

a) Work the kids as hard as they can, through very intensive discipline, in order to produce the best results, increasing enrollment,

b) Create an image of the school that appears 'prestigious', which too garners squadrons of wealthy parents lining up to enroll their children. This is done by covering up any mishap, which happens far more often than these institutions would ever let loose, and also by tying into a), and ensuring that students match the school's 'grand' image through strict uniform code which is always impractical (blazers & knee-high socks on 35 degree days), and often ridiculous (those STUPID HATS); and,

c) I don't know how exactly they do this, must be the water, but these money-hungry cricket/rugby union hubs manage to (90% of the time) produce a brand of person that is distinctively snobbish, ignorant, conservative, xenophobic, trashy, conceited, arrogant and condescending. For some reason, in our channel nine society, this is an upstanding citizen, which I would just LOVE my children to be.

No this is not all private schools.

Yes I probably sound completely hypocritical.

It's just my rant

In my opinion, you mightn't do so well in the ASX game because you haven't got daddy's team of 20 financial advisers helping you out, but if you attend a public school, you will come out with a stronger social integrity and a more actual perception of what is the REAL WORLD.

 

[ccc123]

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I'll start by saying i HATE people like Ja'mie King from We can be heroes who are utterly convinced that Private School education is way above Public Education. It's a joke. The majority of people who go to Private schools are dumb shits who are planning to rely on their parents and their money in the future.

Both types of education are just as good as eachother - there is NO real difference.

QFT.

I love you JamesTockuss...

Anyway, I'm not going to bother arguing this topic much more, because I've debated it ad naseum and there are still people who are igorantly convinced that their parents' $20 000/ year is being spent on a better-quality education rather than their school's massive ovals and underground carparks.

Bottom line: The constituents of a good education and positive school experience (i.e committed teachers, supportive social environment etc) cannot be bought. Furthermore, if we're talking in terms of academia, then a school cannot claim total credit for a student's results, for it is likely they are predominantly a product of their individual effort and academic proficiency.

 

[u-borat]

Re: Public School vs. Private

You'd have to a 'dumb shit' to think that Ja'mie King is anything more what Aplus pointed out;

Too bad the character was an exaggerated parody of realistic societal interactions and if it was reflective of any values held by people in the Private Schools' Education system, then it represented a minority.

 

[Bobness]

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You'd have to a 'dumb shit' to think that Ja'mie King is anything more what Aplus pointed out;

Good post (by Aplus).

I still believe local comprehensive (public) schools offer the most laid-back and 'natural' environments. There's something about this that i prefer over the 'artificial' experiences offered under other educational systems. I base this mainly upon my encounters with students i have taught from various educational backgrounds, and the former schools of my peers studying education degrees (and majoring in English).

I still object to Cherrybrook Technology's (see a previous post) exceedingly large student cohorts though (esp in Year 12) as i don't believe the highest level of education can be delivered. It's almost like a 'factory': producing excellent results but possibly meaning individual students feel lost in a sea of faces. This may be simply speculation however, and i know many students are very defensive about their old schools - so please if needed, politely correct me.

However ccc123, and her posts, seem pretty ace. :uhhuh:

 

[lionking1191]

Re: Public School vs. Private

Meh, I go to a private school, and I quite dislike the mentality that resides in most of the school.
Real difference to the public school friends I have...
But then, I wouldn't want to send my children to a selective school either, I know people in them too, and its just too academically based.

So yeah, if I could choose again, I'd probably choose either a less grand private school, or one of the better public non selective schools out there...

wow, this is the funniest thing i've seen all day

 

[ari89]

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Not quiite on the topic but I'll put it this way..

Private schools are just businesses. Their primary intention is to get as much business as they possibly can, in order to maximise their profits.

Not really. They aren't 'profit maximisers' in any negative sense as a socialist would criticise a corporation. Most schools and universities put all profits back into the school.

For example, the private university Bond puts all profits back into the uni and students benefit from this. They have the lowest student to staff ratio, technology facilities beyond their requirements and added bonuses such as a pool on campus and a gym provided free to all students. Lectures are videoed and broadcasted across campus and many on campus residents can watch these lectures from their own room on their tv.

Also, not having to rely on external grants for research funds allows them to conduct research without fear of reprimand for showing results against the intentions of the funder.

Similarly, private schools invest profits into the school which benefit the students and not some make believe capitalist fat cat bank CEO.

They do this in three ways:
a) Work the kids as hard as they can, through very intensive discipline, in order to produce the best results, increasing enrollment,
b) Create an image of the school that appears 'prestigious', which too garners squadrons of wealthy parents lining up to enroll their children...

Just lol.

c) I don't know how exactly they do this, must be the water, but these money-hungry cricket/rugby union hubs manage to (90% of the time) produce a brand of person that is distinctively snobbish, ignorant, conservative, xenophobic, trashy, conceited, arrogant and condescending. For some reason, in our channel nine society, this is an upstanding citizen, which I would just LOVE my children to be.

Now this is just you being sour about something.
Bullied by private school kids on the bus? Or beating to death at sports? lol
Probably drop the 0 off the end of that 9...

In my opinion, you mightn't do so well in the ASX game because you haven't got daddy's team of 20 financial advisers helping you out,....

Yeah, totally, guy. Every private school kid has a mansion, 20 financial advisors and a pool of cash.

You do know that a lot of private school kids come from middle class families who give up a large percentage of their income and foregoe luxuries and holidays to give their children the best possible education they can?

So you were right when you said it was just a rant. A baseless rant, in fact.

Edit: I really don't understand the irrational attacks on people who spend their money at their own personal cost to benefit their children.

 

[liam9519]

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My brother goes to a private school. This is the perception I get from that. I mean, Saturday detentions for being out of uniform? And why the hell do they have to buy textbooks on top of school fees? And why do they have longer holidays? Doesn't make much sense..
But yeah reading that over it does sound a bit opinionated, and you're right that 90 is probably closer to a 9. A lot of my friends go to private schools, and they tend to be pretty cool, but they always have...at least hints of what I outlined. And no I couldn't care less about sport or whatever it was you were saying, my bitterness comes from the fact that these schools receive ridiculous amounts of State funding. And the fact that I have to use textbooks that are actually 20 years old. But I suppose money spent on education of some form is better than it going somewhere else.
It seems to have become almost a material good that makes parents feel better about themselves. I just don't appreciate the whole concept of money buying a 'better education'...

 

[Continuum]

Re: Public School vs. Private

You do know that a lot of private school kids come from middle class families who give up a large percentage of their income and foregoe luxuries and holidays to give their children the best possible education they can?

So you were right when you said it was just a rant. A baseless rant, in fact.

Baseless? Yeah it is. The part where you said 'best possible education' basically marked your whole post as being bullshit, since whether or not it private schools are the 'best possible education' is purely subjective.

 

[ari89]

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Baseless? Yeah it is. The part where you said 'best possible education' basically marked your whole post as being bullshit, since whether or not it private schools are the 'best possible education' is purely subjective.

I never said it wasn't subjective. In their opinion they are spending money on the best possible education they can give their child. This is an education which will hopefully bring sound academic results but also much more. It is no secret that for non-selective schools, private schools do excellent. These include Aschem, PLC, SCEGGS, etc.

Private schools are also well equipped in serving an overall school experience, especially in co curricular activities. Many have excellent sporting facilities such as pools, ovals, gyms and multiple sports teams that aren't usually available in the public school system.

These are some of the reasons why they believe it to be the best possible education they can give their children. If they saw it as a waste of money, would they really spend in excess of $20,000 a year on it?

Care to explain how that negates anything or, as you claimed, everything I said?

How does that make the point any less valid that many parents give up so much in order to send their kids to a private school? Or that it is not a prerequisite to become an elitist scum bag?

Please do explain this!

Again I state, I do not understand the irrational hate of people who send their children to a private school at their OWN financial expense.

 

[JamesTockuss]

Re: Public School vs. Private

Yeah if it happened on a fictitious comedy it must be true!
It was on TV! Who can argue with it's validity!

Too bad the character was an exaggerated parody of realistic societal interactions and if it was reflective of any values held by people in the Private Schools' Education system, then it represented a minority.

You'd have to be a 'dumb shit' to think that Ja'mie King is anything more what Aplus pointed out;

So these kids honestly think that Ja'mie King is a complete overexaggeration?
Well either (a) You've never spoken to private school students, because they do honestly believe that not going to a private school is a crime against humanity, or (b) You are a private school student.

And judging by Ari89's smartass response and Aplus's overwordy bullshit - I'd say it's the latter. Typical private school ignorance -_-

To finish with a quote by Ja'mie King - 'Do you ever get angry at your parents for sending you to a government school?'.

Point madeeee

 

[midifile]

Re: Public School vs. Private

So these kids honestly think that Ja'mie King is a complete overexaggeration?

Honestly, how many private school students do you know that are exactly like Ja'mie King.

I will give you $20 if you can find me 5 students [yes, I am a private school kid, so obviously I have mountains of money to throw around for ridiculous reasons]

Well either (a) You've never spoken to private school students, because they do honestly believe that not going to a private school is a crime against humanity, or (b) You are a private school student.

omgzzz youre lyke soo totallly correct <3333

not being rich$$ and going 2 a privatee skool lyke me is just as badd as human rights violations, poverty, war and such

Yous guys shud be lyke shot or at least locked uppp 4 da sake of society

And judging by Ari89's smartass response and Aplus's overwordy bullshit - I'd say it's the latter. Typical private school ignorance -_-

btw, Ari doesnt even go to school, Aplus goes to fort st [a public school]

 

[Js^-1]

Re: Public School vs. Private

You can't deny that Private schools get better results academically. I've got an issue with schools that discriminate based on religion or any other shit like that.

I like my school, despite the morons who go there. It would be nice if Public schools got the results that private schools did, and if private schools got the social awareness that public schools do.

 

[-may-cat-]

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Honestly, how many private school students do you know that are exactly like Ja'mie King.

I will give you $20 if you can find me 5 students [yes, I am a private school kid, so obviously I have mountains of money to throw around for ridiculous reasons

heh, i dont believe that its an accurate representation at all, but i could easily find you 5 students just like that. I have to catch their school bus to get home cuz my school does not provide one.

There are girls there who are about 8 years old who sit there talking about what sluts and skanks other girls in their grade are.

The older girls say 'like' about 20 times a sentence and often talk about what a derro i am cuz i go to a public school.

Often they will tell the bus driver not to pick me up, to just drive past, which means i have to catch a bus leaving the city in peak hour, ie, it takes me like 2 and half hours to get home.

Not all private school girls are like that in the slightest, but these girls are honestly just like that television character.

 

[zomfg]

Re: Public School vs. Private

I went from a private school to a public school. I prefer public schools over privates. Private schools are WAY too strict for me and I am definitely much happier at a public school. There's a lot more freedom and you do things on your own, no one spoon feeds you. Private schools are definitely more sheltered though if I had stayed there I would've done a LOT better for my UAI however I probably would've ended up killing myself. That's my 2 cents.

 

[ari89]

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So these kids honestly think that Ja'mie King is a complete overexaggeration?
Well either (a) You've never spoken to private school students, because they do honestly believe that not going to a private school is a crime against humanity, or (b) You are a private school student.

And judging by Ari89's smartass response and Aplus's overwordy bullshit - I'd say it's the latter. Typical private school ignorance -_-

To finish with a quote by Ja'mie King - 'Do you ever get angry at your parents for sending you to a government school?'.

Point madeeee

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