YES I AM.Optimus Prime said:You're sure showing a break from cultural stereotypes by abstaining!
Completely different to almost ALL my friends in the CHURCH or OUT OF IT.
YES I AM.Optimus Prime said:You're sure showing a break from cultural stereotypes by abstaining!
You're pushing your beliefs by implying that it's better and more 'pure'. You christians with your holier-than -thou attitudes, don't even realise that it constantly manifests in your condescending attitude and posts.*TRUE* said:My gosh?
Why should any woman have to explain what SHE chooses to do with her body? Only one id consult in this is my boyfriend , and i do that cause i WANT TO.
I am not irrational or wrong. My choice will not affect you.Anyone who thinks that my choosing to do what i wish instead of conforming to cultural stereotypes is irrational and wrong is in fact COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY WRONG.
I HAVE NOT pushed my own choices on anyone. I resent that. ( as you may have noticed by my liberal use of the caps lock.)
READ my posts before you write any trash about pushing beliefs on anyone.
I don't understand it, but I want to. What's wrong with pressing people to understand how they think?Pace_T said:some of you are arguing for an explanation over why some people want to remain virgins before marriage. whether it is logical or illogical doesnt matter. its their choice. and if you persistently demand a logical reason for it you are hypocritically trying to push your own beliefs (current cultural standards) onto them. their choice doesnt have to make sense by your standards, as long as it makes sense for theirs.
Ennaybur said:You're pushing your beliefs by implying that it's better and more 'pure'. You christians with your holier-than -thou attitudes, don't even realise that it constantly manifests in your condescending attitude and posts.
It's obviously upset you and hit a nerve because you do realise that basing it on these outdated and oppressive rules is irrational, regardless of how you try to spin it.
It's irrational from where we're standing but she's not hurting anybody by choosing to abstain til marriage.Ennaybur said:You're pushing your beliefs by implying that it's better and more 'pure'. You christians with your holier-than -thou attitudes, don't even realise that it constantly manifests in your condescending attitude and posts.
It's obviously upset you and hit a nerve because you do realise that basing it on these outdated and oppressive rules is irrational, regardless of how you try to spin it.
okay i can see what you are saying - i should have put on "stfu for people having sex" too. but yeah this thread (all 29 pages of it) . This thread just goes in the same loop.*TRUE* said:Look no personal offence intended but that pot was badly put together.
Sharing your view and imposing it are two different things.
You have basically said that if 'you want to hold off' you should shut up , whilst 'good on' everyone else.
Thats so wrong.
+1ur_inner_child (page 17) said:problem with using "religion" as a reason why being a virgin is so good is just like saying "cuz my mummy said so"
if you truly believed that being a virgin is good in relation to religion, you'd have solid reasons that don't necessarily tie in with religion
for example
"i will be giving something special to the person I marry, who would be the person I love and will want to spend the rest of my life with"
or
"I don't want to give into the temptation of giving something special to someone who I think I love, but wouldn't necessarily want to spend the rest of my life with"
or
"I believe it is something you can only give away once, and I want to give it to someone that loves me for me, and would want to spend the rest of my life with etc"
not
"cuz God says so".
lolfag*TRUE* said:READ MY POSTS. You are obviously mistaking me for someone else.
I dont like being judged , hence my hit nerve.
I have not implyed its better nor more pure. I have pondered whether it is healthy. That is different.
I HAVE RAGED AGAINST Christians with holier-than-thou attitudes.
Stop beng so silly and arrogant. read the thread before you start spouting such ridiculous nonsence and slurs.
I have NO condecending attitude toward anyone , though i am perhaps forming one towards you.
I respect every poster on here , i have said one thing to Evilo which i thought was fair enough -to say that only one view is valid enough to share IS wrong...
Yeah I know what you meanEvilo said:okay i can see what you are saying - i should have put on "stfu for people having sex" too. but yeah this thread (all 29 pages of it) . This thread just goes in the same loop.
"i'm not having sex till im married"
"why"
"x reason"
"<religion argument>"
"<personal choice argument"
"what about your partner? argument"
"its my choice/god says so argument"
"religion argument (again)"
+1
Welcome to the internet.Evilo said:okay i can see what you are saying - i should have put on "stfu for people having sex" too. but yeah this thread (all 29 pages of it) . This thread just goes in the same loop.
because some people push for answers so hard that they are basically forcing current standards onto others. but i can see where you're coming from, because i too dont understand abstaining from sex until marriage because of religion. i get really annoyed by it. but if they say its because of other reasons ( e.g. intimacy with only one person) i can totally understand it.jumb said:I don't understand it, but I want to. What's wrong with pressing people to understand how they think?
haha thanks.jumb said:Welcome to the internet.
If they don't like it, they don't have to make a post and include themselves in this discussion. Quit defending people who don't need it.Pace_T said:because some people push for answers so hard that they are basically forcing current standards onto others. but i can see where you're coming from, because i too dont understand abstaining from sex until marriage because of religion. i get really annoyed by it. but if they say its because of other reasons ( e.g. intimacy with only one person) i can totally understand it.
they can discuss whatever they want. and can be hated for it too. but whats not on is people who are hypocritical towards others and forcing current cultural standards onto them.jumb said:If they don't like it, they don't have to make a post and include themselves in this discussion. Quit defending people who don't need it.
Actually, I think it's more like 'all cases'.nick1048 said:he has a point munchkin... chicks that have already had sex are more willing to sex again relative to virgin women IN MOST CASES...