V6 and V8 (2 Viewers)
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seremify007
Junior Member
lol i was thinking more along the lines of consumer grade cars w/o specialised safety equipment... there's a video of an old SL mercedes convertible flipping and the driver walking away somewhere on youtube.
staticsiscool
Banned
yeah i know i was just remarking how mch better of we would be if we were forced to wear helmet and 5 point harnesses instead of the useless lap sash ones with no head protection
if the govt was serious they would make this legislation
and increase manufacturers standards to include roll cages not just safety units (u know the where the people sit with the increased rigidity)
if the govt was serious they would make this legislation
and increase manufacturers standards to include roll cages not just safety units (u know the where the people sit with the increased rigidity)
seremify007
Junior Member
Don't you think the decline in visibility and agility would offset this? One of my family's cars has racing harnesses and rollcages which whilst keeping me securely in my bucket seat and protecting me in an accident, make it difficult to see anything outside of the car, let alone turning around to check blindspots or reverse. In other words, it makes the impact of an accident far less severe, but it also increases the likelihood of said accident.
staticsiscool
Banned
HUD with side and rear cameras
integrated roll cages, dont tell me a VE cant fit some 3 inch pipe in those pillars lol
but yes excellent point
i know, transluscent cars
integrated roll cages, dont tell me a VE cant fit some 3 inch pipe in those pillars lol
but yes excellent point
i know, transluscent cars
lol :rofl:
I think the other issue with extra safety would be cost. I can't imagine bits fitted to a F1 car would be cheap.
It's my least commonly driven car, a weekend carI can't help but think that's still a poor choice of car for a learner since it has a much more potent accelerator pedal (I'd imagine less lag) and you are encouraged to accelerate rather than slow down when there is a potential conflict (e.g. lanes merging). But fair enough you raise some very valid points that the C63 AMG is a great car and can be appreciated at low speeds. I personally have never driven one but it's on my todo list
I started off in a Lexus RX330 which (well very obviously ) is a very different car and the confidence you get from something more planted to the ground is incredible, and yes, you're very correct (re. lane merging) i've only ever planted the foot to the floor once, that's when I was stuck at the end of a merging lane, stationary. It's a funny setup actually, the gearbox has 3 settings and is very docile if not "laggy" in Comfort mode (also starts in second). I clearly remember that moment that I saw a big enough gap, in comfort, the bad boy seems to just sit there the moment you depress the throttle beyond say 3/4 in a rush then movement starts to happen - only to have most of the power cut again because where I was, there's a bit of gravel that had been shifted to the side of the road - so for a moment, it almost seems slow
Given the opportunity, you must take one out, I can guarantee you'll be thoroughly impressed by the (even de-tuned) M156 engine and transmission combination.
It's beyond anything else in this price bracket, even the M3 or F (in real world driving conditions) - okay well the R35 GT-R is an exception :rofl:.
Riet
Tomcat Pilot
I would rather the M3 purely for being able to rev a fucking V8 to 8000 rpm.
Azamakumar
bannèd
I recommend doing that almost without exception, really. Being able to do a decent amount on the 250 means you can get away from trouble quite easily provided you have enough room in front of you. The downside to braking is getting rear ended, moreso on a bike because they're harder to see etc.
For all the hooning I've done, I've only ever clipped another car when pulling off from the kerb at about 5km/h (sup not doing a headcheck) and when braking to avoid another car on the bike instead of accelerating into the gap just ahead of me.
It seems liek a pretty reckless thing to say but I wouldn't write it off. If it works it works.
It's fun a few times then when you get stuck in traffic (well anywhere you can't build up enough engine speed) the novelty wears
But I can understand why, it's a real screamer (love the rapid sounding bumbly V8 from the exterior) and when pushed hard, you'll be laughing at the C63 .If all you're after is 8000, what's wrong with a B7 RS4? 8250RPM
Doesn't go so well, but sounds the goods
Riet
Tomcat Pilot
8400 rpm then
Even with all the extra torque the C63 is only marginally faster to 100, would take the M over it every time.
Even with all the extra torque the C63 is only marginally faster to 100, would take the M over it every time.
8400 rpm then
Even with all the extra torque the C63 is only marginally faster to 100, would take the M over it every time.
I can respect that, it's an impressive piece of machinery. You kinda get the whole M3 torque output in the C63 at some stupidly low figure like 3-4,000RPM though
At least the M3 should go easier on tires haha, maximum use of a set of C63 rears with electronics on all the time is about 10,000km's or so at $800 a pop...... (Pirelli are ripping people off )Although it doesn't always work like this, and maybe there's an explanation but just as an observation, based purely on looking at figures, ~1,000cc = ~100Nm of torque
Riet
Tomcat Pilot
yeah 100 nm a litre is an indication of a good engine actually. Though they are obviously they are tuned differently. What you need to remember though is that if an engine can rev higher it can have shorter gear ratios and so the torque at the wheels can still be quite comparable.
chuboy
Member
If the exemption is only so you can share drives on the trip down, don't bother with an exemption. Just drive and if you get pulled up, tell the cops you're just sharing the drive. You're hardly going to hoon with your parents sitting in the car, and it would be contradictory of the police to tell you not to share the driving load.
You're better off doing that because, no matter what you think, you aren't going to get an exemption on a C63 like that. The system of exemptions was designed for the family-owned C220K that needed a super just to move in traffic
You're better off doing that because, no matter what you think, you aren't going to get an exemption on a C63 like that. The system of exemptions was designed for the family-owned C220K that needed a super just to move in traffic
Riet
Tomcat Pilot
or 1.3L turbo french cars that no P plater would actually want to drive if they didnt have to.
seremify007
Junior Member
I don't think this applies to new drivers though who might squeeze the pedal too hard and without the aid of traction control/stability control, could find themselves somewhere unexpected (either not going anywhere or going somewhere else). I personally tend to accelerate when lanes merge but that's because I can judge distance and know my car's capabilities. Not quite the same if you are still starting out. Just my 2c. Best to learn good habits whilst you're learning IMO.
ps. Above applies to cars not bikes.
pps. If you get rear-ended then they shouldn't have been tailgating so close especially when approaching a merging point.