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[x.Exhaust.x]

For those who received offers into UWS in the past, what was your ATAR and UMAT like combined?And for the people who transferred *cough* wooz , how were you going with uni? What was your GPA, ATAR & UMAT.Thanks.

 

[dolbinau]

Unless you're trying to get a correlation between ATAR and UMAT and/or being accepted then that information could be useful.

But note that unlike say UNSW, once you get over the cut off it is only UMAT/interview that counts, so the only thing you really need to know if you must get over 95 if you're a non-GWS student (or something like 93? if you are GWS).

 

[Wooz]

Almost half the course is made up of non-standards and of the entire cohort almost half come from Greater Western Sydney.

The average UAI for school leavers was 99.15 for the 2013 cohort. However, you only need to reach the 95.40 ATAR mark if you are non-gws and 93.55 if you are from GWS + UMAT which is weighted (GWS require a slightly lower threshold in the UMAT).

My GPA was Distinction Average, I don't remember what my UMAT marks were. My UAI is totally irrelevant since I had a family member pass the day before my exams and funeral/funeral planning during exams, and I was given an estimate based on raw internal marks.

 

[x.Exhaust.x]

Unless you're trying to get a correlation between ATAR and UMAT and/or being accepted then that information could be useful.

But note that unlike say UNSW, once you get over the cut off it is only UMAT/interview that counts, so the only thing you really need to know if you must get over 95 if you're a non-GWS student (or something like 93? if you are GWS).

Oh wow I see. For my prediction (GWS applicant), I received 95. If I score close to or above my predicted, they only rely on the UMAT score and the interview then? What about the other people who score ATAR's of 99 and receive similar UMAT and interview results? The same applies for UNCLE right?

Thanks guys.

 

[Wooz]

Oh wow I see. For my prediction (GWS applicant), I received 95. If I score close to or above my predicted, they only rely on the UMAT score and the interview then? What about the other people who score ATAR's of 99 and receive similar UMAT and interview results? The same applies for UNCLE right?

Thanks guys.

Once you've reached the interview offer stage, it's 100% based on the interview. Because of the differences between the Non-GWS and GWS umat scores.

It dosn't matter if you have 99.95 or 95.40, or 93.5 ATAR (for GWS) once you reach the threshold, the only determining factor for interview selection will be your umat score.

Yes UNCLE uses a threshold system as well.

 

[x.Exhaust.x]

Once you've reached the interview offer stage, it's 100% based on the interview. Because of the differences between the Non-GWS and GWS umat scores.

It dosn't matter if you have 99.95 or 95.40, or 93.5 ATAR (for GWS) once you reach the threshold, the only determining factor for interview selection will be your umat score.

Yes UNCLE uses a threshold system as well.

I see. UNSW doesn't, right? It's 1/3 weighted each.

Thanks.

 

[Wooz]

I see. UNSW doesn't, right? It's 1/3 weighted each.

Thanks.

Yeah, UNSW doesn't, I can't remember the weightings though.

 

[KFunk]

The average UAI for school leavers was 99.15 for the 2013 cohort.

I'm suprised that the average could be that high with a threshold system given that analysis of ACER data by universities in the past has shown there to be a low correlation between UMAT subtests and between each subtest and UAI.

This leads me to think that either there is a curiously strong correlation between UAI and interview performance, or someone is lying.

 

[Wooz]

I'm suprised that the average could be that high with a threshold system given that analysis of ACER data by universities in the past has shown there to be a low correlation between UMAT subtests and between each subtest and UAI.

This leads me to think that either there is a curiously strong correlation between UAI and interview performance, or someone is lying.

I've posted this up on MSO, etc, and over students have said it as well. It was stated by the dean when we started, most of the school leavers we have are from selective schools and private, etc even those from GWS tend to be either non-standards which make up half the cohort (they weren't included, due to GPA's, etc) or from selective/private schools.

I was in the late round of interviews with 20 other students (handful interstates, most of those with poor UAI estimates) and I was the only one to get in. So I don't know maybe there is a correlation, but then again UWS is the only uni to specifically weight sections of the UMAT and use the MMI.

Edit: Other uni's such as UNSW have higher mean UAI's in the 99.6-7's, despite the scale between UAI and UMAT scores giving students with UAI's as low as 95 to gain an interview. But then again UAI, Interview and UMAT is weighted, etc.

 

[mrs grasshopper]

Once you've reached the interview offer stage, it's 100% based on the interview. Because of the differences between the Non-GWS and GWS umat scores.

It dosn't matter if you have 99.95 or 95.40, or 93.5 ATAR (for GWS) once you reach the threshold, the only determining factor for interview selection will be your umat score.

Yes UNCLE uses a threshold system as well.

how do they compare umat scores? is it also a threshold system or do they have specific weightings for each section?

 

[Wooz]

how do they compare umat scores? is it also a threshold system or do they have specific weightings for each section?

They weigh them so half the students who have reached either the non-gows or GWS thresholds come from GWS and the other half non-GWS. Last year they changed section 3 to weigh 1/3.

 

[dolbinau]

After you've been interviewed at UWS, does UMAT still count towards admission? I thought it was 2/3 interview 1/3 UMAT at UWS..

 

[KFunk]

I've posted this up on MSO, etc, and over students have said it as well. It was stated by the dean when we started, most of the school leavers we have are from selective schools and private, etc even those from GWS tend to be either non-standards which make up half the cohort (they weren't included, due to GPA's, etc) or from selective/private schools.

I don't doubt that UWS could draw on the kind of population required to make such an average possible. However, given the intake stats on MSO from 2007 (indicating that there must historically have been a reasonable spread between 95 - 100) and given how many NSW 99+ students are sucked up by combined law and UNSW med it seems unlikely that the UAI distribution in the applicant pool would be that high.

Certainly there could have been a confluence of factors, but my statistical intuitions make me suspect that they used a weighting or an increased cut off for part of the selection process.

 

[Wooz]

I don't doubt that UWS could draw on the kind of population required to make such an average possible. However, given the intake stats on MSO from 2007 (indicating that there must historically have been a reasonable spread between 95 - 100) and given how many NSW 99+ students are sucked up by combined law and UNSW med it seems unlikely that the UAI distribution in the applicant pool would be that high.

Certainly there could have been a confluence of factors, but my statistical intuitions make me suspect that they used a weighting or an increased cut off for part of the selection process.

Meh, the only two people who really know about that are the Dean the Prof of Medical education at UWS, but that's what they told us.

 

[mrs grasshopper]

After you've been interviewed at UWS, does UMAT still count towards admission? I thought it was 2/3 interview 1/3 UMAT at UWS..

yeah thats what i thought as well