US tariffs of 104% on Chinese goods now in force (5 Viewers)

[HazzRat]

Anyone who reads something like this and thinks that there's a future where America and China are just peaceful friendly trading partners needs their head examined

Last year, Chinese hackers intruded into US civilian infrastructure, including air traffic control. China first blamed criminals, but now they admit it was state-backed & pursued as a matter of war planning. Decoupling is simply inevitable, even if it is painful for investors Last year, Chinese hackers intruded into US civilian infrastructure, including air traffic control. China first blamed criminals, but now they admit it was state-backed & pursued as a matter of war planning. Decoupling is simply inevitable, even if it is painful for investors

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It's amazing how people are willing to essentially support the prospect of WW3 with Russia, and think that Trump being willing to negotiate with Russia means he's irremediably evil and must be destroyed

but then apparently, anything other than unilateral free trade policies towards china are too expensive to consider, and that Russia's most important ally including following the invasion of ukraine is a good country that doesn't deserve negative treatment

you can't make this shit up

Wouldn’t it be the best outcome for everyone if the US-China relationship was trade and only trade? They don’t need to be geopolitical buddies. All that is needed is for the American consumer and the Chinese producer to benefit for the relationship to be justified. Like a divorced couple who puts the kids first sorta arrangement.

 

[nsw..wollongong]

why did u delete my post where i said to @alphxreturns that i agree?

but none of sylvia's racist ass comments get deleted on a topic thread like tariffs of all things

 

[jane1820]

but none of sylvia's racist ass comments get deleted on a topic thread like tariffs of all things

i bet all my money that the admins/mods favourite sylvia

we get banned for saying stuff like 'ur stupid' or defending ourselves yet here he is fucking codger

 

[its_ace21]

i bet all my money that the admins/mods favourite sylvia

we get banned for saying stuff like 'ur stupid' or defending ourselves yet here he is fucking codger

u should've seen in 2023, a bunch of people got banned for calling sylvia old while he was making racist remarks

 

[jane1820]

u should've seen in 2023, a bunch of people got banned for calling sylvia old while he was making racist remarks

sums bos fr

 

[Cooking?]

Even though I'm the biggest hater, I can't stand this nigga Sylvia, he doesn't hate normally, this nigga is a full blown racist. Nigga what have muslims done to you their the nicest people ik bro

 

[SylviaB]

but none of sylvia's racist ass comments get deleted on a topic thread like tariffs of all things

If you think the truth is "racist", that's a you problem.

 

[SylviaB]

Even though I'm the biggest hater, I can't stand this nigga Sylvia, he doesn't hate normally, this nigga is a full blown racist. Nigga what have muslims done to you their the nicest people ik bro

Muslims aren't a race

And how are the people who oppress women, sexual minorities, religious minorities etc. "the nicest people"?

Muslims think that western countries not bending over backwards to accomodate their backward beliefs is "racism", then in countries where they're a majority they'll straight up ban the practice of other religions and people like you don't care at all

In Australia, muslims are overrepresented in crime - is this what the "nicest" people would do?

Like, literally, what would muslims have to do for you to think they're not the nicest people? Throwing gays off buildings, executing people for "blasphemy", imprisoning women for being rape victims? What do they need to do before they're not only nice but nicer than everyone else?

If "their" the nicest people, go tell your sister (or girlfriend or female friend) to travel from algeria through the middle east to pakistan in skimpy clothing. Let's see if she even makes anywhere near Pakistan in one piece, would honestly be amazed

 

[SylviaB]

Wouldn’t it be the best outcome for everyone if the US-China relationship was trade and only trade? They don’t need to be geopolitical buddies. All that is needed is for the American consumer and the Chinese producer to benefit for the relationship to be justified. Like a divorced couple who puts the kids first sorta arrangement.

This is hopelessly confused

The US and China have different and INCOMPATIBLE geopolitical goals and aims, and trade and geopolitics are not independent things

What if China wants to take over Taiwan? The US doesn't want this, which means they will face a conflict with China if China tries to invade. And if the US were to let China invade and do nothing to stop it, then that means the US is sacrificing its geopolitical goals to avoid upsetting trade with China. This is the opposite of trade and geopolitics being separate as you seem to think they are.

Further, the US is dependent on China for things that it needs, directly or indirectly, to pursue or maintain its geopolitical goals. Which means China can and will use the treat of cutting this off to advance its own geopolitical (and trade) goals

Additionally, maintaining the current trade arrangement with China means China gets stronger indefinitely, and the strength of China directly influences the ability of the US to achieve its geopolitical goals (because these goals are often at odds with China's geopolitical goals)

You're basically just saying "why can't we all just get along" without trying to understand any of the reasons why there's any conflict at all in the first place

And of course, you act like the US is the crazy one here, as if China is a free trade country that just wants to mind its own business and fairly build its economy. China are the ones who had extremely unfree and anti-competitive trade practices in the first place. Trump's approach is not great so far, but people like you never, ever talked about China's unfree trade practices at any point before, which means you're either being uninformed or dishonest when you act like the US are the ones being unreasonable for not supporting free trade.