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If you are thinking of finishing undergrad then get a job immediately after that then consider this scenario:
Suppose there are two of the same person who are equally intelligent with equal opportunities. One of them graduated at Uni A, which is ranked higher in engineering; the other graduated at Uni B, which is ranked lower. Now if you were the employer, whom would you hire?
Otherwise, if you are thinking of getting into research, doing interesting and cutting-edge things, then it's a little bit different. In this case, if you are good then you are good - and you will usually be given the opportunity provided that you can prove that you really are that good (unless we are talking about universities that nobody cares about - it sad, but it happens; but neither UNSW nor Sydney Uni is in that situation).
Ultimately, both of those scenarios are simplified and a lot of the time it also involves making the right connections (and, at the same time, getting the right information). As a starting point it should give you a rough idea of how to choose I hope!
Ah, also - if you want to work in academia in science and engineering, ultimately you should aim to get out of the country and go somewhere prestigious *as early as possible*.
Oh, and if you are interested in doing research in a particular field (and fairly certain that's what you want to do) of a particular branch of engineering - I personally think that your decision should be based on which university has the more famous/world-leading lecturer in that field.
Hope that helps!
As Geologic has pointed out, student exchange can also be applied during your study at whichever university (I'm certain that this is the case for UNSW, I assume that it's also the case for Sydney Uni). The only difference is that you probably won't be going with a bunch of engineering friends that way (please correct me if I'm wrong).
It appears that some people can't manage to say anything without swearing. I'm amazed that it goes up to 50% in foulness by word count. Then again, that's probably as intelligent as they can manage.
Suppose there are two of the same person who are equally intelligent with equal opportunities. One of them graduated at Uni A, which is ranked higher in engineering; the other graduated at Uni B, which is ranked lower. Now if you were the employer, whom would you hire?
Otherwise, if you are thinking of getting into research, doing interesting and cutting-edge things, then it's a little bit different. In this case, if you are good then you are good - and you will usually be given the opportunity provided that you can prove that you really are that good (unless we are talking about universities that nobody cares about - it sad, but it happens; but neither UNSW nor Sydney Uni is in that situation).
Ultimately, both of those scenarios are simplified and a lot of the time it also involves making the right connections (and, at the same time, getting the right information). As a starting point it should give you a rough idea of how to choose I hope!
Ah, also - if you want to work in academia in science and engineering, ultimately you should aim to get out of the country and go somewhere prestigious *as early as possible*.
Oh, and if you are interested in doing research in a particular field (and fairly certain that's what you want to do) of a particular branch of engineering - I personally think that your decision should be based on which university has the more famous/world-leading lecturer in that field.
Hope that helps!
Speaking from experience, it's fantastic to have the opportunity to go on exchange during your undergrad years or go overseas to do research. Having said that, they are usually marking strategies just to try to attract more students to study the subject (and some require you to achieve at least a certain average in exams).I always thought that UNSW was better but I found out if i do engineering at USyd I can study overseas for a year ... which i want to do.
As Geologic has pointed out, student exchange can also be applied during your study at whichever university (I'm certain that this is the case for UNSW, I assume that it's also the case for Sydney Uni). The only difference is that you probably won't be going with a bunch of engineering friends that way (please correct me if I'm wrong).
See much earlier.Even though UNSW is supposedly better (by popular opinion) , in the end, there are no MAJOR benefits in going to unsw and which uni I go to won't affect me too much when i finish. Am i correct in saying this?
Can't say I'm made for law and arts either but I wouldn't say that they are pointless. We do have a fancy Law Building in which nothing is horizontal or vertical.If you want to study arts or law or something pointless like that, go to USyd.
If you want to be a maddog and actually study something worthwhile and that will put some pretty penny in your carman (engineering), come to UNSW.
Well said. +1looking at the previous responses begs a certain question
it appears that unsw is better for engineering, but would you take money (eg a scholarship) to go to usyd?
and if you would, then i suppose you must consider whether or not you are choosing engineering for the right reasons.
IMO, given the opportunity to become a good engineering or an excellent engineer, then money shouldnt really effect that choice
(also, anybody that rejects unsw in favour of usyd because of travel time is retarded)
Well, UNSW does own Sydney Uni at engineering - as you have pointed it out yourself. Yes, people still graduate and get jobs - but are they generally better jobs?i'm deciding on the uni based on scholarships
usyd's not ridiculously bad lol you make it out as if unsw owns it in eng - sure it's better, but people still graduate from usyd and get jobs....
Ultimately it's not going to matter which university you choose, as they are both fucking awesome. Choose whatever is closer (more convenient) or one which more of your friends go to etc.
after a year of it, you won't really give a fuck what uni its at
what a fucking dickhead
It appears that some people can't manage to say anything without swearing. I'm amazed that it goes up to 50% in foulness by word count. Then again, that's probably as intelligent as they can manage.
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