Transformations: Hamlet and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead (2 Viewers)

[zozman]

Hey pplz i need to know the nature of moral order in RaGad im stumped i really dont think there is any but i have to wqrite an essay on it so plz help

That's the whole point - there isn't any moral order in "R+G", so perhaps you're meant to disagree with the statement of the question.
In "Hamlet" there's moral order in the form of Elizabethan values and people taking action etc (Hamlet eventually!) but Stoppard makes the point in the transformed text to convey the decay of society and the stagnant state in which '60s society was in. A "spritual wasteland" due to R+G's lack of belief in themselves and not taking action to make their own lives worth living.
This absence of moral order creates universal chaos in "R+G"

Haha what a load of CRAP that teachers drill into you..
anyways, good luck dear!!
xo

 

[jcspecs06]

Well we are told not to abbreviate in the actual HSC at all, it undermines the work. SO i abbreviate in notes but in my essays i change terms such as:
- Stoppard's Play
- Stoppard's Work
- The Contemporary Play
- The Modern Work

I just keep using those so it doesn't look cheap abbreviating. Our teacher has been head of english for 20+ years at many schools and marked for all that time, he says to do what i said above.

 

[jcspecs06]

Yeh i agreee...the point of R+G is a lack of moral order achieved through existentialism derived from the modified structure of theatre of the absurd (be careful tho, R+G is NOT theatre of the absurd t just has absurdist views). This is what you juxtapose with the moral order achieved in Hamlet which is achieved through suspension of disbelief.

Hamlet asks you to accept everything on stage as reality through metatheatrical quotes such as "to hold the mirror as 'twere up to nature".
R+G asks you to accept that everything you know is not real because its based on the reality of Hamlet. The reality on Hamlet is created by actors or as Stoppard calls them "A comic pornographer and a rabble of prostitutes".

See the problem? How is there any real moral order in hamlet if it's performed by immoral people. Because R+G is everything in Hamlet but offstage, R+G and the players are used to undermine the reality of hamlet, it shows their characters for what they truly are. Hence there is no moral order in R+G because Stoppard is trying to show you off-stage in Hamlet and if moral order is real in Hamlet then its most definitely unreal in R+G.

I know this is long winded but i hope it helps.