The Prince of Wales (1 Viewer)

[suling]

The point still stands, the royal family should have an English lineage of a minimum of 500 years

What do you classify as English lineage? What about marriage to people from other nations -does this not then dilute the lineage?

 

[katie tully]

The point still stands, the royal family should have an English lineage of a minimum of 500 years

What?

Why?

Where have you pulled this arbitrary figure of 500 years from?

 

[katie tully]

What?

Why?

Where have you pulled this arbitrary figure of 500 years from?

I mean it doesn't make any sense because I don't think there has ever been a time when an English monarch had an "English" lineage of 500+ years

House of Denmark bro
House of Normandy
House of Stuart, those cats were Scottish so does that count as English because I think you'll find the Scottish will disagree with that description..

 

[suling]

I mean it doesn't make any sense because I don't think there has ever been a time when an English monarch had an "English" lineage of 500+ years

House of Denmark bro
House of Normandy
House of Stuart, those cats were Scottish so does that count as English because I think you'll find the Scottish will disagree with that description..

This is what I was trying to get at.

 

[katie tully]

This is what I was trying to get at.

Yeah but Wolf is a bit thick, it needs to be reiterated several times.

Now sit back and watch as he insists on this bizarre 500 year lineage thing.

 

[LonelyWolf]

Yeah but Wolf is a bit thick, it needs to be reiterated several times.

Now sit back and watch as he insists on this bizarre 500 year lineage thing.

500 years because thats when england was founded you idiot

ugh

 

[katie tully]

500 years because thats when england was founded you idiot

ugh

.... What?

 

[cem]

500 years because thats when england was founded you idiot

ugh

England existed in the 800s. Alfred the Great was King of England as was the later William the Conqueror from 1066. Even under the Roman modern England was a Roman province separate to Scotland which was never subjugated.


The joining of the Crowns of England and Scotland in one person was 1603 and since then only two kings haven't been born in the UK - George I and George II - both of whom were direct descendents from James I and VI who was the first king of both countries. Their very claim to the throne came because of their descent from his daughter (he only had the three children - the eldest son predeceased him, Charles I who was beheaded and his daughter whose youngest daughter was the mother of George I - so George I was a great-great-grandchild of Mary Queen of Scots.

The Acts of Union that brought about the UK as we know it today were passed in stages - 1706 (by the Scottish Parliament) to unify with England and then again in 1707 by the English Parliament to also agree to the union of the two nations. Then in 1801 the final act was passed which brought Ireland into the Union.

So the modern nation has only existed for just over 200 years and all monarchs since then have been born in the UK.

 

[Lentern]

Here is what I think:
- I don't care where they were born.
- I don't care whether Charles is an astute dresser or knows about buildings and stuff
- I don't care whether they do charity work, so they bloody should. They get paid a bucket load of money for a purely symbolic role

And a whole bunch of other stuff.

Basically I don't care about the royal family, in a way that is totally apathetic. I.e. I don't care if they exist, I don't care if they don't exist.

It wasn't merely that he does work for charity but the extent to which he has devoted himself is pretty much unrivalled within the family, I also didn't mention the other reasons you gave .

 

[cheese_cheese]

We should become a republic. Malcolm Turnbull was right 10 years ago.

 

[katie tully]

It wasn't merely that he does work for charity but the extent to which he has devoted himself is pretty much unrivalled within the family, I also didn't mention the other reasons you gave .

Happy for you, dip shit. Read the rest of the thread, you'll see the other points had been mentioned.

 

[Lentern]

Happy for you, dip shit. Read the rest of the thread, you'll see the other points had been mentioned.

I think its probably a safe bet that until yours mine was the only vaguely serious comment.