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veterandoggy said:
hmm, the words of defeat......................................

maybe you cant be bothered because youre wrong?
hehehe kinda
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veterandoggy said:
hmm, the words of defeat......................................

maybe you cant be bothered because youre wrong?
No, it is because Sonic was wrong to assume that people require a religious framework in order to act in a 'moral' capacity, or that people require religion in order to have direction in life, or that they require religion in order to care about others, etc.

It was wrong on so many levels, so NTB was more than right to just dismiss it out of hand.
 

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well whatever the case i didn't really get a logic answer back..
 

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Generator said:
No, it is because Sonic was wrong to assume that people require a religious framework in order to act in a 'moral' capacity, or that people require religion in order to have direction in life, or that they require religion in order to care about others, etc.

It was wrong on so many levels, so NTB was more than right to just dismiss it out of hand.
now to your retaliation....
well this is my opinion and many believe it is wrong.. thats cool but the way i see it only those ppl with a motive and with a direction in life succed.. for me the direction comes from religion
 

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Generator said:
No, it is because Sonic was wrong to assume that people require a religious framework in order to act in a 'moral' capacity, or that people require religion in order to have direction in life, or that they require religion in order to care about others, etc.

It was wrong on so many levels, so NTB was more than right to just dismiss it out of hand.
well, it doesnt require alot of the group to have no morals for hatred to stem up among them, and if you were to get a healthy mix of people in that group there will no doubt be hatred.
 

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now to your retaliation....
well this is my opinion and many believe it is wrong.. thats cool but the way i see it only those ppl with a motive and with a direction in life succed.. for me the direction comes from religion
For you, it does, but that isn't to say that religion alone provides direction for all, does it?
 

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veterandoggy said:
well, it doesnt require alot of the group to have no morals for hatred to stem up among them, and if you were to get a healthy mix of people in that group there will no doubt be hatred.
Once again, morals aren't solely prescribed by religious frameworks.
 

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check it out and come back and tell me.... that's what works for me for others it something else.. but religion is an important part of our lives and that can't be deined
 

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Though the basics are available in religion and it gives a headstart
 

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veterandoggy said:
i never said anything about religion, cos even people following religion can stem hatred towards each other
that is true as well.
 

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Sonic said:
basically if u got a bunch of ppl that did'nt care about anything or anyone and basically had no direction in life and put them on an island... you would get ppl that are not caring of other ppl who just don't care creating a society of hatred.. yes it's true..
and about shunning religion for the supposed reason that it creates hate is purely the stupidest idea ever.. (see above)

mate not wasting your life praying and going to mosques to waste more time to some great being that hasnt been proven to exist is a waste of time. If you think thats a direction in life, its very sad. Atheists are exactly like anyone else except without a silly belief that they have to waste their life. How about a carreer or other accomplishments in life rather then being a devoted follower? i think thats a direction in life. i am sorry but if anyone religon creates a society of hatred. each religon hates the other afterall.
 

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at a time lyk this, we need to have stronger laws, but these new ones are too much, i mean says umthing against USA (not even our government) could land u in a detention centre/jail...i never moved 2 australia to live a soviet-lifestyle in a police state controlled by ASIO
 

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SashatheMan said:
mate not wasting your life praying and going to mosques to waste more time to some great being that hasnt been proven to exist is a waste of time. If you think thats a direction in life, its very sad. Atheists are exactly like anyone else except without a silly belief that they have to waste their life. How about a carreer or other accomplishments in life rather then being a devoted follower? i think thats a direction in life. i am sorry but if anyone religon creates a society of hatred. each religon hates the other afterall.
ok a carrer is spelt career (no offence) and that's not much of a life or direction a career that will eventually end.... not really much to look forward to
 

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"Atheists are exactly like anyone else except without a silly belief that they have to waste their life"
where exactly does that actually fit anywhere????
 

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SashatheMan said:
mate not wasting your life praying and going to mosques to waste more time to some great being that hasnt been proven to exist is a waste of time. If you think thats a direction in life, its very sad. Atheists are exactly like anyone else except without a silly belief that they have to waste their life. How about a carreer or other accomplishments in life rather then being a devoted follower? i think thats a direction in life. i am sorry but if anyone religon creates a society of hatred. each religon hates the other afterall.
Mate no is going to convince you here....look at personalities like Yousef Islam (Cat Stevens) who made it their life ambition to find direction in life, and they found it in the Holy Revelation of the Quran.

Mate, don't take my word for it...when the last day comes it will be people like you that are going to be shitting themselves.
 

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Mate no is going to convince you here....look at personalities like Yousef Islam (Cat Stevens) who made it their life ambition to find direction in life, and they found it in the Holy Revelation of the Quran.

noone can convinve you. if you were taken from your parents and brought up in a christian family, you would grow up beliveing in chist and have a differnt direction in life.
I was brought up in a semi religious family, but made my own choice to see the true direction in life.


Mate, don't take my word for it...when the last day comes it will be people like you that are going to be shitting themselves
thats the precise the thing that brings fear into your life telling you , you must keep praying. and exactly the thing that makes you think that your religion is better then anyone elses becuase you will reap the rewards while others will suffer on judgement day.
 
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veterandoggy said:
and it is forbidden in islam to fight women, children, old and sick people. only the ones who fight you should be fought.

what verse is that from? i need to find it to read the ARABIC
wtf with the ARABIC in caps?

I realise it is translated dickhead.

It is obviously not forbidden in Islam to do those things: why do your like constantly defend Osamah Bin Laden, The Iraqi "resistance", and the Palestinians?

You are murderers at heart.

Quite frankly, no one is fighting you. There is no Western war on you.

You started it first.

It is the responsibility of the West now to punish you for your crimes.

An eye for an eye.
 

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