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who is going to win the state of orgin??

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go the reff!!!
he always wins no matter how the game turns out the reff always wins!!!


go the reff!!

by the way last nite i watched that $25 million dollar hoax thing. it was much more entertaing than football!!!
 

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samuelblayden said:
well qld won the first game in goldern point time but NSW will win the 2nd and 3rd
Yes, but through an actual try, which is a hell of a lot better than those soft field goals NSW always opt for in extra time.
 

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withoutaface said:
Yes, but through an actual try, which is a hell of a lot better than those soft field goals NSW always opt for in extra time.
You mean like the one that got queensland into extra time ?
 

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AsyLum said:
You mean like the one that got queensland into extra time ?
The difference being that extra time usually has a big build up that something great's going to happen, and when/if a field goal is punted over it's rather anticlimactic.
 

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Heh :D.

Carl Webb is a BEAST. Too bad he's playing for the enemy.

Kimmorley was shocking last night. His game was simply crappy. Barett was quiet as well. Thurston on the other hand, was fabulous (especially considering it was his first rep game). That was the difference. That, and the lack of size in the NSW pack. If Mason & O'Meley were available that game would've been ours.

Don't worry Blues fans, we'll get 'em at Telstra!
 

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copious said:
First try Ty Williams ;)
That's who I tipped as first try scorer too. If only I was 18, damnit.

If I was, 50 dollars to the TAB would have rendered me 700 dollars. ARGH!
 

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ChrisE said:
ill say that the st george players were the ones that had the poorest games. all of them either were quiet or were off their game except for small bursts of goodness in the second half.
1) Luke Bailey: 43 tackles and 13 hitups (this was updated on NRL site today). He has never been known as a game-breaker, and he was selected to do this exact job.
2) Trent Barrett: His first half was poor because he didn't get the ball. It was only when he DID get it in the second half that NSW started to look likely. And it showed, with 20 points in 20 minutes. For all the people that bagged out his bomb which caused King to go into touch, give yourselves an uppercut. I'm sure he's sorry for the one terrible kick he delivered in the regulation 80 minutes. Good old Brett Kimmorley is also very sorry for the 14 poor kicks he delivered last night. For all his kicking brilliance, NSW did not get one line drop out last night.
3) Jason Ryles: He was, frankly, very disappointing last night. For anyone who knows Ryles's playing style, though, they will understand WHY he was poor. I shall wait and see if anyone does understand why he played badly.
4) Matt Cooper: The best defensive centre in the NRL, with a total of ZERO missed tackles. He wasn't selected to make line breaks, but Kimmorley obviously thought he was, because he never stopped directing play down the left side.
5) Mark Gasnier: The best offensive centre in the world, and he wasn't allowed to show it until Barrett took over. When a player who is SUPPOSED to get the ball is starved of it, how can anyone say the player was good? He showed what he is capable of in 15 minutes of rugby league. If he is not fed with the ball in SOOII continuously, NSW will have as good as lost the series.

Random_87 said:
What about the ineffective centers?
Explained above. If your beloved Brett Kimmorley had actually realised that Mark Gasnier was on the right side of the field and he has actually moved the ball out there, NSW would have won the match. Alas, it took Trent Barrett to realise that the ball should be on that side, and in the end, it was too little too late. (And for whoever it was who referred to him as BK, you will find that BK is actually Ben Kennedy. Kimmorley's nickname is Noddy.)

Constip8edSkunk said:
yeah exactly! thats why selecting simpsons wasnt really a top idea. he did ok this match, but it would have been much better if there was a specialist prop backing up bailey and ryles when they go AWOL.
The problem for NSW for SOOI was that there was no other props to choose. Clinton is playing crap. O'Meley is injured. Tell me who NSW could have selected as a bench front rower.

AsyLum said:
One of the most potent backlines and it was hardly used, rather it ended up being a battering ram.

Bailey has always been a workhorse, Ryles an offloader, but there just wasnt any push at the beginning. We didnt have someone who could step up and just take someone head-on, someone to really rally the forwards.

Kennedy did it a bit towards the end, but that was what someone like Clinton, just a character to pull the rest in.

Ordinary performance from the Blues and almost stole the game, good job queensland.
And FINALLY someone who knew exactly what they were talking about. It seems that my challenge to understand why Ryles couldn't dominate last night was answered here.

Sorry for the relatively long post.
 

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so simpsons was picked as a backup prop, but he didnt play like a prop, he was just another 2nd rower on the field. yes he made 30+ tackles, but had only 4 hit ups for 26 meters. theres enough forwards that can tackle til the cows come home but nsw lacked a forward who can take a few tough hitups and grind out some meters. bailey did that for about 1/3 - 1/2 of the game, otherwise it was mainly minichello/rooney/king taking dummy half runs then have some random forward make 5 meters, then kenndy/fitzgibbon having a go and then if there are any plays left and somehow over the 40m play around a bit.

yes penriths are losing but clinton isnt playing crap and i definitely wouldve picked him ahead of any of the 3 backrowers on the bench. i feel watmough was underused last night. his lack of size also counted against him. i wouldnt be surprised to see him get dropped in favour of a prop, even though he hardly got into the action to show what he's got.
 

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Constip8edSkunk said:
nsw lacked a forward who can take a few tough hitups and grind out some meters.
They really needed Mason and O'Meley, stupid ARL

Constip8edSkunk said:
u said the centres were poor, they were directly a result of being deprived of the ball for which kimmorley is at fault
I agree. I didnt think the centres were poor, I just thought they were quiet, and the halves were to blame. Kimmorley had a shocker, but chances are he'll keep his spot. But QLD were smart, they were running at Kimmorley all night, and that affected his game.
Barret wasnt much better, a few of his bombs almost went backwards.

Its obvious that a Kimmorley/Barret combination doesnt work, and they need to get rid of one of them. Ill put Anasta in, because he knows how to belt the crap out of the ball to gain field position. Interestingly, Kimmorley doesnt work well with a few players. Lockyer/Kimmorley combo was last year bad too. So if the selectors wont get rid of Kimmorley, than they need to get rid of Barret, coz that combo doesnt work.

The NSW pack were ineffective early on. Price, Civonacieva, Thorn were great. And when Webb came on to smash Bailey, it was terrific. However it must be said that Bailey was ready to come off, while Webb just came on.

I think Watmough will be dropped for Clinton

Of course, Stuart had a whinge after the game.
 

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Qld team named for Origin II

6 June 2005


The chairman of Queensland Rugby League, John McDonald, today announced the following XXXX Queensland team for State of Origin II:


1. Billy Slater (Melbourne Storm)
2. Ty Williams (Nth Qld Cowboys)
3. Shaun Berrigan (Brisbane Broncos)
4. Paul Bowman (Nth Qld Cowboys)
5. Matt Sing (Nth Qld Cowboys)
6. Darren Lockyer (c) (Brisbane Broncos)
7. Johnathan Thurston (Nth Qld Cowboys)
8. Brad Thorn (Brisbane Broncos)
9. Cameron Smith (Melbourne Storm)
10. Petero Civoniceva (Brisbane Broncos)
11. Michael Crocker (Sydney Roosters)
12. Carl Webb (Nth Qld Cowboys)
13. Chris Flannery (Sydney Roosters)

Interchange
14. Ben Ross (Penrith Panthers)
15. Dane Carlaw (Brisbane Broncos)
16. Casey McGuire (BrisbaneBroncos)
17. Matthew Bowen (Nth Qld Cowboy
 

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Thorn to prop, Webb off the bench to the second-row, and Carlaw in.
 

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I would of liked to see danny nutley, but Carlaw has the experience.
 
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GO THE BLUES!!!!! haha kimmorley got dropped....maybe he should of got a 2nd chance???.......NAH!!! hahaha
 

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I think that SOO ruined Kimmorleys year. previous to that game he was awesome. Ever since he has been down on confidence and not playing like he was... its disappointing to see that the media appears to have affected the way he plays, and as a sharks fan that sucks. We need Dykes bad!
 

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gordo said:
good,
now origin 2 will go to the blues
Kimmorley was never any good. I've been telling my dad who is a big fan of the sharks that for a long time. It took the last origin game to show everyone what I have known all along.
 

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well he's not shit, he captains a 1st grade side
he is just not up to scratch to play origin
 
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