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PwarYuex said:
What's your point? 1. Yet the Lidcombe campus life is as dead as ours. 2. Lidcombe is neither isolated or central.
My point was that it's more about the groups people are forced to make, rather than what the student body does, which makes people more 'sociable' at uni (I was talking about people being generally sociable or wanting to socialise, rather than the campus life, probably more in relation to this or similar quotes: )
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I know. Makes me laugh every time. I wouldn't mind this subforum to attract a few more students. But then again, people here are pretty shit: The biggest meetup ever was 6(?) people -- all of whom, bar one, already knew each other. Pretty indicative of the university culture at large, I think.
But a good student body would definitely help, I will not deny the fact that I had high hopes for the atmosphere that was supposed to be there from student bodies when starting at mac and was totally disappointed when I slowly realised it didn't seem to exist. Then I decided that I had unrealistic high-hopes and how it was was how it was supposed to be.

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I know, it's really weird.

I'm just coming to realise how the uni is. It's a terrible attitude, but I've adopted a really negative opinion based on my recent looking at other unis. When it comes to academic postings, Macquarie graduates are just not present. I think the only Macquarie graduate I've seen in a reasonable academic position is UNSW's dean of law, and she only did her UG at Macquarie. Point me to one Oxbridge or Ivy League academic who is an MQ grad, and I will point you to 100x who went somewhere else in Australia. I won't start about the academic side (which is, in part, reflected in the lack of MQ postings outside of the uni). And when you come to the non-academic side, it's obvious that we're massively lacking. And this is why we're behind a lot of hideously bad unis in every ranking imaginable.
That's really interesting, for some reason I think I have realised that only a few academics I have come across studied at Macquarie (note this is just generally, I don't know about the Ivy League and so on), but I thought that the lack was because it's a relatively 'new' uni with 'new' degrees... but this definitely isn't true for the uni as a whole. I guess it's in line though with the small size of the uni and the fact that most of our postgrads are by coursework.
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Its probably because i'm from the country side and I think someone an hours drive away is still within my neighbours range, but I've found one thing with uni people (sydney people actually..) that anywhere over 20 minutes away is pretty much another planet. I live in the city, right in the hype of all things Sydney! and I don't see Macquarie as being far away, but whenever people ask me where I live and I tell them they are like "wow poor you, you have to travel so far!", honestly, when the hell did 40mins-1hr travel become "so far away"?
:eek: hahaha so true, all my 'closest' uni friends live literally close. no more than 20-30 mins away. some live within walking distance. :eek:

Daytime activities could work.
 
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PwarYuex said:
And that's a good thing?
Its not inherently bad nor good, I don't value outward politics as a person/student nor should I be forced to think it was.


I really don't think I've got an idealistic/naive/ignorant view, mate... And I think that if people are happy to exist within a framework of laid-backness and let themselves go unrepresented, it's pretty indicative of their views.
And you view these views as being some sort of 'negative' aspect? University isn't the hotpot of bedlam left wingers that it used to be, and I'd argue that we aren't being unrepresented, but rather our representations are very much the problem with voter/student apathy.

Case in point: We pick between a bunch of left wing greenies and a bunch of asians. As a student, how the fuck are we supposed to feel compassion or empathy or even interest when our representations are very much not in our favour?

Sure someone could go and stand up for it, but the fact remained that the access/information to doing such things haven't been exactly 'forthcoming'. If I had tried to stand for the middle-ground, what chances would I have had, when I'm being undermined as a potential candidate by not only my political oppositions, but also the very system which is being used? (ala the whole ballot counting asian SUPRA shit).

Its hard to care about something so stagnantly stupid and blatanly corrupt.


I'm not saying that every student should be expected to have pride? I'm saying it would be nice if the students cared. Which, clearly, they don't, really:
I'm sure people DO care, but again what are we supposed to do? Half the people I know jokingly say I should change it, some even seem pretty vocal about their opposition, but even those who get into positions, ala Phil and co, lets be honest, haven't exactly been too effective in stopping/curbing/changing anything. Again, hard to care when its not exactly a fair fight.


Oh you totally did not just pull the 'ignorance because of the system card'. Nazism much? :p[/quote[

Nazism was a voluntary submission into the propaganda of the time, yes people knew about it, but chose to blame the system instead. How many people at Macquarie ACTUALLY KNEW about Victor Ma and his dealings outside of the lefties/greenies? Outside of the whole 180 Degrees stuff, what other information was released to actually indicate the there were serious problems? An article every 6 months or a year in the SMH? There has been, and continues to be until Ma is gone, a very good cloak and shadows campaign instituted to maintain his power and position. On that account, he'd make a perfect politician and dictator in his own right.

And I hope that you're right about people starting to care. Yes, the the university was not helpful in letting students know the shit, but I think that if local students demanded answers, a lot would be different.
3 year degrees. Most people are realistically at uni for a degree primarily and socialising as an auxiliary aspect. Times have changed, and long haired hippies are far and few between. IF there was more information provided, as Schwartz has been doing, it might stir a fair few ideas or comments from local students, but heck theres been such a big black hole in information and a dedicated campaign in misinformation it makes the Qantas takeover bid seem simple and trifle in comparison.


I think I'm the only one complaining? :confused:
Theres a fair few complaints, if not outwardly...


Well you seem to be changing your tune... Are we allowed to be inactive or not?

And I partially agree with you. I think that talking about stuff and informing people (which I try to do) is some form of action.

With regards to the old Greek notion of participating directly in democracy: The only position that I could really bring anything to would be Academic Senate. I personally have no skills which would help MUSC, SAM, or University Council.
I'm not changing my tune at all, I'm stating that there is a relative lack of action in macquarie politics, and that underlines what I've seen to be the basis for many 'campaigns' at MQ, from Victor, to 180 degrees, to whatever the hell else has gone on. Its been played in the shadows rather than being out in the open, just what Ma has wanted. People are inactive through their ignorance or naivity to the situation, their inability to do anything to rectify the situation, or their dispositions to the political game. In its current face, it is a very 'inactive' or rather inert political environment, with several factors really contributing to its condition.

Going out and informing people is very much the only thing that happens, and even then its been poorly executed at the best of times. What people want to hear isn't another propaganda campaign, or the berrating voice telling them to do something, but rather just information for them to makeupyourownmind.com (tm).

I highly doubt notifying people outside of lectures would change anything which I dislike... Example in case 180 stuff with the '05 elections. If you had any ideas about how one can actually participate beyond offices, being generally informed and talking with people, and occasionally sticking stuff in The Word..., I'd love to know. And stop giving me the 'stop whinging or participate' argument. :p
If I were to manage a campaign, I would've sat down and made it VERY vocal, not only to the ones that might understand me, but more importantly to the ones that didn't. I think the fundamental error of the campaign against Ma was that there was no real movement on his front, it was all to those who probably already had dispositions to voting against shifty looking asian folk. The problem was that they were outgunned, outnumbered, and in most situations outmanouvered by the campaigning and efforts of those said shifty charlies.

In a fight like that, the most important thing was dualistic attack not only dispelling the lies perpetuated to SIBT/international/asians by Ma, (and for this you needed martyrs) and also a hard edged and highly visible campaign for the rest of the campaign.

The reason the christians and hillsongers are so annoying is BECAUSE they are so prominent. Same with the queer clubs. More could be learnt from both in terms of garnering attention and thoughts.

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Take a deep breath, 2, 3, 4.
 
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Take a deep breath, 2, 3, 4.
See well I'm really not caring about it too much, honestly.

I'm totally over staying at uni here. I just think that it's a bit sad that the uni is ranked so poorly, and rightly so in my opinion, when it has so much potential.

If you and other students think that a uni shouldn't have a very active political scene, something is very wrong.

Hopefully with the ejection of Victor, the new kids start rebuilding some sort of community. I'd like to think that a breath of fresh air is coming, but when people think that what's been happening is justifiable in any way, I really don't see it happening.
 

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sorestudent said:
People are a bit too pessimistic on this. Once Victor's gone, it will open up debate on campus, there will be fresh ideas and more people interested in getting involved.
hey guys,

as of today veema is student representative on university council for 2007/08.

thanks heaps to everyone who supported my campaign.

2,200 people voted out of 26,000 ballots sent out. 2% rise in votes since last year.

peace
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nikmueller said:
2,200 people voted out of 26,000 ballots sent out. 2% rise in votes since last year.

peace
nik
Bahaha. <10%. Nice.

Well it's good to know that we're almost coming up on Rwanda's 15%. Almost. :D

Ah well, MUSC will always be more of a Ma stronghold until there's a lot of money in it which he can legally steal and be exposed for.
 

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MUSC's assets have been frozen as of yesterday by the feds.

exciting stuff
 

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I demand a recount!! Do you know the percentages, Nik?

I dont like to think that MQ students lack a brain... how can people have continued to vote for him? And I thought that Ma had been thrown out of MQ (effectively)?
 

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I duno wat to feel, this entire state of affairs is so strange...

Maybe the guy who said this was right => that the majority of us are ignorant of what goes on at our uni.

-P_D
 
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Massive 3/4 page article in the Sun Herald today:


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Black start to uni revolution

From The Sun-Herald, May 13, p. 15. Souce.

May 13, 2007

THE SAGA of Macquarie University's feud with its former vice-chancellor, Di Yerbury, continued last week in the same madcap fashion it began.

All week the 61-year-old blonde one-time queen bee of the North Ryde campus has been holed up in the Phillip Street offices of Minter Ellison Lawyers, inspecting the contents of 133 cardboard boxes that have been the subject of legal wrangling in the NSW Supreme Court.

Under the terms of the agreement reached last week between Yerbury and the university, she must inspect the boxes in the presence of an "observer" and is said to have resorted to building a wall of empty boxes around herself in an attempt to preserve her privacy.

After 19 years of devoting almost every waking minute to what she called "my beloved Macquarie", it is a sad postscript for the popular Yerbury, even with the reputed $1million payout and six-figure annual pension her energetic lawyers managed to extract from the university.

The battle with her successor, the New York-born psychologist Steven Schwartz, turned ugly long ago, with forensic auditors and lawyers at 50 paces and embarrassing leaks to the media all year about a missing employment contract, weekend secretaries, a nude painting and a dawn raid on the university storeroom, caught on CCTV.

Even the unexplained death of Schwartz's 29-year-old son in his sleep, which Schwartz learnt about in a heartbreaking phone call in a taxi from the airport the day he arrived in Sydney from England last January, has been dragged into the fray.

But behind the scandal is a serious story about corporate governance and whether the billions of dollars of taxpayer money poured into Australian universities is being managed carefully enough.

Under Yerbury's freewheeling reign, for instance, some record-keeping was so relaxed that the university claims to have found no clear ownership records of paintings, said to be worth millions, that Yerbury says are her property on loan to Macquarie, but which the university says have been "co-mingled" with its collection.

One painting the university is not contesting ownership of is a Clifton Pugh of Yerbury's naked bottom. "We're happy to hand that one over," said university spokesman Mark Gold on Friday.

Schwartz, 60, previously vice-chancellor of West London's Brunel University, has been ruthless in his pursuit of what he regards as sloppy account keeping during Yerbury's tenure. He ordered two independent audits by Deloitte: one into Yerbury's employment contract, entitlements, expenses, loan of a private art collection and outside employment; and one into the activities of Macquarie International, the university's division dealing with overseas students, which raised questions of excessive spending on travel and expenses, including a $770 cab fare. Schwartz has referred both audit reports to the Independent Commission Against Corruption.

Then there is the police investigation into the activities of the Macquarie University Students' Council after a whistleblower last month warned of possible mismanagement of student funds. The university council has appointed a provisional liquidator to the union.

Schwartz's appointment was never going to be painless.

When he first arrived at the leafy campus last year he found no office, no telephone and no secretary, and Yerbury still ensconced in the large vice-chancellor's suite with the amorphous role of "international ambassador". Quite how the university council, headed by ASX chairman Maurice Newman, could have allowed such a recipe for disaster to develop is not clear. But the inevitable clash of very different personalities has engulfed the university ever since, and a Yerbury-Newman conciliatory dinner last March did nothing to stop the tension.

The pity is that all the fuss has overshadowed the exciting ideas Schwartz has for Macquarie, to develop research excellence, recruit the best academics, attract more students and improve access for clever but disadvantaged people.

"This uni has been asleep for a while," he said in a recent interview in his office. "It has been punching under its weight ... and nowadays, when people are being asked to pay for their education, they deserve a higher level of accountability."

Schwartz also plans to open a postgraduate medical school modelled on the prestigious Johns Hopkins School of Medicine in the US, with cerebrovascular neurosurgeon Professor Michael Morgan as dean. It will be integrated with the new 144-bed Macquarie University Private Hospital to be built on campus by the end of next year.

He also aims to create a Silicon Valley environment by inviting scientific research companies onto the campus.

And he wants to send out Macquarie's lecturers to teach in local high schools to grow a new generation of science undergraduates.
Revolutions are never easy.
 
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Also saw this. Not relevant, but what the hell:

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Uni legal action only the first shot, says Yerbury


Matthew Moore Freedom of Information Editor
May 7, 2007 -- Source

THE former vice-chancellor of Macquarie University Di Yerbury has taken her former employer to court in the first of what she says will be several legal actions in an increasingly bitter dispute over her possessions.

Dr Yerbury sought an injunction in the NSW Supreme Court last week to stop the university inspecting about 133 boxes containing her papers and other documents it seized last year.

The university had planned to begin opening the boxes on Wednesday but, just before court proceedings began on Tuesday the two parties struck an agreement to allow Dr Yerbury to inspect the boxes.

Dr Yerbury said the university "backed down" when faced with an injunction but the university's spokesman, Mark Gold, said: "Dr Yerbury agreed to what we had proposed for a number of months."

Under the agreement Dr Yerbury went to the offices of the university's solicitors, Minter Ellison, last week where she began the long task of preparing an inventory of their contents.

She discovered the total number of her boxes seized had grown to 141, seven of which have been returned to her "without explanation" and one of which is missing.

The boxes were seized last year along with about 400 artworks Dr Yerbury claimed were hers. The university says it was concerned that it owned some of their contents.

Dr Yerbury said her ownership of the artworks was clear in almost all cases but conceded the content of the boxes was more complicated and "there's definitely some university material there".

Mr Gold said the university had been trying for months to get Dr Yerbury to agree to open the boxes in the presence "of an observer appointed by her". "From day one there's been no doubt those boxes contain property of the university," he said. "The question is how much and of what nature. Nobody really knows what's in them."

Resolving the contents of the boxes won't resolve the whole dispute. The university has no signed copy of Dr Yerbury's contract of employment, which complicated calculating her final payout.

"They gave me, in a matter of six months, three totally different figures," Dr Yerbury said.

She is now contemplating suing the university over "issues of my statutory entitlements". But Mr Gold said Dr Yerbury had got what she was entitled to.

"From the university's point of view, Di Yerbury was more than adequately compensated for what she claims was owed," he said. "As far as we are concerned, that matter is finalised."

Another issue that Dr Yerbury says could see her in court this year was the release by the university to the Herald this year of more than 2000 pages of documents detailing the numerous disputes with her.

"We are taking legal action about various aspects [including] the breach of Privacy and Personal Information Act," she said, claiming the university wrongly released this information to the Herald.

Again Mr Gold disagreed.

"The information was released in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act, it was handled by the FOI officer and it was not the responsibility of anyone else to censor that material."
 
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So article in the two posts above confirms that there was a whistleblower. I hope they're okay.
 

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Thanks for this champ, will help with my PR assignments :D
 
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Thanks for this champ, will help with my PR assignments :D
Fairfax site is really good with searches - I'd never tried it before now.
 
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I hope the whistleblower is ok as well. Good on them!

And honestly, Yerbury deserves everything that's happening to her, really. It was her lax attitude that's to blame - she should be thankful the uni doesn't confisticate all the artwork and claim it as theirs 'until proven otherwise'.
 

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she should be thankful the uni doesn't confisticate all the artwork and claim it as theirs 'until proven otherwise'.
Err...they kinda are doing that, thats why she's kinda going ape shit.
 
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Well that's interesting.

I just found out that it was Sean Garmen who was the whistleblower...
 
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Email sent today:
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Dear students

Further to my 'everyone' email last week, the following is an update on the student issues as they currently stand. This statement will be issued to the media today.

At the request of University management, the Federal Court has appointed a provisional liquidator to Students At Macquarie (SAM) and its commercial catering arm Venues At Macquarie. This was necessary to protect the jobs of Venues employees, which were threatened by the transfer of more than $200,000 last week.

According to bank records, directors of Venues At Macquarie, who include student council president and former SAM president Victor Ma, transferred $115,000 from Venues to a lawyer’s trust account. The same individuals transferred $118,000 out of SAM’s account. These transactions have put the company at risk of insolvency, threatening the jobs of its employees. Tens of thousands of dollars that had been transferred from the child care centre have now been returned.

Our main concern at the moment is to secure the return of this money to ensure the job security of the employees. The University was relieved that the judge granted our application to appoint a provisional liquidator so that the jobs of Venues staff could be saved.

All employees, suppliers and customers of Venues At Macquarie have been advised that with the University’s support it is business as usual.

The University has also applied to the Supreme Court for a receiver to be appointed to the Macquarie University Student Council (MUSC). This is expected to be resolved early this week. In the meantime, orders restraining the movement of MUSC assets have been made.

Macquarie University has had concerns about financial management within the student bodies for some time now. These concerns were amplified with the discovery that a significant amount of money had been transferred, and that the management staff of SAM had been removed as signatories to the bank account. This effectively gave directors the ability to transfer funds without the knowledge of management.

Macquarie University has reported these matters to authorities.


Steven Schwartz
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AsyLum said:
Err...they kinda are doing that, thats why she's kinda going ape shit.
I know they're more or less taken stuff off her, but I think for now it "belongs" to the auditors - to my knowledge it's not officially the uni's yet?

Rob said:
I just found out that it was Sean Garmen who was the whistleblower...
Who's Sean Garmen? What's he like? Where can I find him so I can give him a beer/bake him a cake? :D

And also...

According to bank records, directors of Venues At Macquarie, who include student council president and former SAM president Victor Ma, transferred $115,000 from Venues to a lawyer’s trust account. The same individuals transferred $118,000 out of SAM’s account. These transactions have put the company at risk of insolvency, threatening the jobs of its employees. Tens of thousands of dollars that had been transferred from the child care centre have now been returned.
That's pretty fucking shifty.

Please tell me that's enough grounds to remove him from position of student council? I know he was just elected and all, but NO SANE PERSON would allow someone who's committed such a crime (and I'm sure it is a crime, and I'm hoping he'll be charged and get some sort of criminal record because he damn well deserves it) to be in any position of power at MQ.
 

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