Should Australia be a Republic? (2 Viewers)

[Trefoil]

If we become a republic I would want to preserve our current parliamentary model. None of that president bullshit.

TBH, I don't really see the need or purpose. Status quo is fine?

 

[ziki]

Didn't need to. You provided them for me fagle.

i only provided 1 fact and it proved me right

 

[rasengan90]

OFCOUSE WE SHOULD BE REPUBLIC!
Few facts:
LONDON to PERTH 8983 MI/14457 KM

When UK decides to go war, Australia was FORCED to join and as a result
61,508 Died in World War 1
521 Died in Vietnam war
Australia suffered huge casualties at Anzac Cove because of the misleading information of the British.

Some might say that Britain is our mother country but thats more then 200 years ago! Australia is now a multiculture country.

Why should we let someone else control us? Why should we let our GREAT country men die for someone else? AND WHY should we let someone so far away take control of us??

Thus i believe that Australia should stand on its ground and become a Democratic republic. Democratic Republic of Australia... What an awesome name

Are you fucking retarded? Britain never set foot in Vietnam (apart from some peace keeping post WWII).

 

[Trefoil]

Um, ziki, Britain can't force us to go to war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Act_1986
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Westminster_1931

 

[ziki]

Are you fucking retarded? Britain never set foot in Vietnam (apart from some peace keeping post WWII).

Okay, im not sure what vietnam is gotta do with this....

Sorry my bad

Um, ziki, Britain can't force us to go to war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Act_1986
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Westminster_1931

We werent forced? We were EXPECTED to help....

sorry about the mis using of word xD

 

[Trefoil]

Of course we were expected to help. We'd still be expected to help Britain (and we'd be fairly proud to do so). That's what happens when you're somebody's ally...

 

[ziki]

Of course we were expected to help. We'd still be expected to help Britain (and we'd be fairly proud to do so). That's what happens when you're somebody's ally...

but if we were republic we would have our own generals and commanders instead of taking orders from British..

 

[rasengan90]

but if we were republic we would have our own generals and commanders instead of taking orders from British..

Uuuuuuh... Pretty sure we have that now and have had for a very long time. In the World Wars Australia was part of combined forces under the Americans/British because no matter now nationalistic you are the fact is Australia is small compared to those superpowers and would not have done well on its own. Even then there were still Australian generals. Are you saying it is the 'Red Coats' shouting orders at the 'diggers' over in Afghanistan?

 

[Trefoil]

but if we were republic we would have our own generals and commanders instead of taking orders from British..

a) we already have our own generals and commanders
b) we don't take orders from the British

 

[ziki]

a) we already have our own generals and commanders
b) we don't take orders from the British

okay, so we act like an independent country and we ARE. Why shouldnt we be republic then ?? are you for or against?

 

[impervious182]

okay, so we act like an independent country and we ARE. Why shouldnt we be republic then ?? are you for or against?

You don't just change to a republic over night.... it seems to me like a lot of effort for nothing.

 

[gibbo153]

Re: Should Australia be a Republic.

Why try to fix something that isn't broken?quote]

agreed.
i don't condone the waste of time being spent speculating over changes to parts of the system which function more than satisfactorily already.

 

[Trefoil]

okay, so we act like an independent country and we ARE. Why shouldnt we be republic then ?? are you for or against?

Against. We are a pretty much a de facto Republic already. I really don't care about de jure, especially when it could change some things that aren't broken.

Perhaps one change that would be worth making is having the Governor General appointed by a independent panel instead of the Queen.

 

[ziki]

Against. We are a pretty much a de facto Republic already. I really don't care about de jure, especially when it could change some things that aren't broken.

Perhaps one change that would be worth making is having the Governor General appointed by a independent panel instead of the Queen.

i believe that the governor general is appointed by a prime minister? isnt it?

 

[impervious182]

i believe that the governor general is appointed by a prime minister? isnt it?

Correct.

 

[Trefoil]

i believe that the governor general is appointed by a prime minister? isnt it?

I thought that too, but wikipedia says it's the Queen.

Anyway, a GG appointed by the PM would be no better - he'd be potentially too partisan.

Edit: according to the Constitution:

A Governor-General appointed by the Queen shall be Her Majesty’s representative in the Commonwealth, and shall have and may exercise in the Commonwealth during the Queen’s pleasure, but subject to this Constitution, such powers and functions of the Queen as Her Majesty may be pleased to assign to him.

 

[nikolas]

I thought that too, but wikipedia says it's the Queen.

Anyway, a GG appointed by the PM would be no better - he'd be potentially too partisan.

Edit: according to the Constitution:

I think the way it works is that the Pm basically recommends a GG, and the Queen says yes/no, not sure though.

 

[impervious182]

I think the way it works is that the Pm basically recommends a GG, and the Queen says yes/no, not sure though.

Hmm... yeah you could be right. I though Rudd chose Quentin Bryce though... but look at this... I think this is a bit ridiculous.

"The Governor-General is President of the Federal Executive Council and Commander-in-Chief of the Australian Defence Force.[1] "
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[Trefoil]

Read wikipedia properly next time, slidey.

Um, I did? Your quote doesn't change what I said: the Queen ultimately decides.

I was quoting the Constitution from the Governor General's website, btw, Brogan, not wikipedia.

http://www.gg.gov.au/governorgeneral/category.php?id=2

 

[withoutaface]

Tbh it shouldn't be an independent panel: it should be 2/3 of parliament. Also the Republic is a convenient symbolic issue to distract Australia from the fact that the world is burning.