Semester 2 Chatter Thread (2007) (2 Viewers)

[scarybunny]

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question, yo.

for the education people doing that ICE thing this sem. i was away sick when we went through how to do the test. i have the sheet with the steps on it however i don't actually know where the 'test files' that we need to start are located. where are they? can you find them on webct or something? or are they somewhere on those lab computers and if so how do i get to them. the dude didnt explain it and i was in a rush so i didnt think to ask him. but its occurred to me that i really should practice the test coz i don't want to fail (not that it looks hard, but you know).

halp, thanks

When you jump on your comp in class, you get the files from "teaching materials" or something similarly named on the desktop. it's like Teaching materials > Nev's files > ICE/MITE exam or something very similar. Then you drag them on to the desktop.
As far as I can remember anyway. I tend to drift off in class but it all seems to be basic stuff I either already know or can figure out for myself, being a child of the information generation and all.

 

[Iheartpaulfrank]

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Anyone else got a really rad email about the Honours Information Week? It makes me seem so smart. I've SO got to go, except that means I have to come in on Wednesday.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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^ yeah

yeah i'm going to do Piaget because i don't particularly like him and wish to refute his ideas, Freud because his psycho-sexual theory interests me even though it doesn't look very credible, and Erikson, who i don't know anything about yet. who are you doing? (lol spot the innuendo. i'm so mature)

Freud, Piaget & Erikson. I think that's what a lot of people will be doing. Freud, because I find what he's written terribly interesting. Piaget, because I find what he's written terribly true. Erikson, because I find what he's written to be terribly profound, true, interesting and relevant. All three of them are linked in some way too - Freud was the big psychology dude around the same time as Piaget, and Erikson was Freud's student who went against the big mans ideas. It's all very neat, nice and groovay.

I'm largely non-interventionist but yeah, I'm against their stance. We're there, we should finish the job.

Automatic response, much? I mean, I could understand wanting to be there too "finish the job" if the job was worthwhile, morally correct and achieving something. Unfortunately, it fails in all regards, and the mass death that it's causing simply isn't worth it.

And yes, of course I'm against public services funding... socialists generally want nationalisation/state-provided services. Libertarians, as a rule, generally want privatisation of services.

Because that'd totally lead to better, fairer and more accesible services for everyone, wouldn't it? I can just imagine Johnny Twodollar living in a world of Malfoys schools. Mummy, can I go to school? No son, we cannot afford it, and we deserve not to be able to attend because only the rich should be able to deserve schools.

Hyperbole? Hardly. Take a look at dental care in Australia, as a superb example of where your logic would take you.

I can kinda understand why you didn't like Dr. Stevie now though, if those are your ideas.

I also have to apply to transfer to science/arts. dunno if i'll get it, but might as well try.

 

[Iheartpaulfrank]

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Freud. What an awesome bloke.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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i'd tap it

 

[Triangulum]

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Anyone else got a really rad email about the Honours Information Week? It makes me seem so smart. I've SO got to go, except that means I have to come in on Wednesday.

Ditto. They so flattering. I might go to the ANHS one, mainly because I want to find out what the ancient-language requirements are and Alistair Blanshard's been too slack to put it up on the website.

Automatic response, much? I mean, I could understand wanting to be there too "finish the job" if the job was worthwhile, morally correct and achieving something. Unfortunately, it fails in all regards, and the mass death that it's causing simply isn't worth it.

You assume that troop withdrawal would stop the violence, but it won't. Troop withdrawal will lead to a deteriorating security situation, and further, it won't fix the underlying causes of the violence, which are underlying tensions between two religious groups - not between Iraqis and Americans - and a power vacuum. If anything withdrawal will create even more of a power vacuum and will therefore lead to more violence. So how is troop withdrawal 'morally correct'?

 

[veridis]

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i'd tap it

your mum?


i love freud because it's the one place where your mum jokes are on topic. apart from that he's pretty crapola.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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You assume that troop withdrawal would stop the violence

No, I don't, smarty.

but it won't.

Indeed.

Troop withdrawal will lead to a deteriorating security situation

So far as I can tell, the US forces haven't really been about to quell any violence, and they're simply delaying the inevitable implosion of the Iraqi government. It sounds terribly callous to suggest that we should just get out of there and get it done with as little violence as possible, and that can only be achieved if the US forces either win (which seems impossible), or get the hell out of there and let another Saddamish government take over. Hwowver callous it sounds though, it seems to be the truth. Keeping foreign military in there is simply elongating violence, causing unnessecary harm to Americans and costing absurd amounts of money. Don't forget that from what I've seen and heard, quite a bit of a hatred (and logically following, violence) is directed at the US forces simply BEING in Iraq.

So yeah, I'm sure it will lead to a further deteriorating security situation, but not much seems to be able to stop that.

and further, it won't fix the underlying causes of the violence, which are underlying tensions between two religious groups - not between Iraqis and Americans - and a power vacuum.

Oh, I'm 100% sure that it's completely due to the tensions between the two groups, and has absolutely nothing to do with the Americans, or funding from Iran to attack the Americans or anything like that. Surely you admit that's not anywhere near the case, and in addition to the power struggle between the primary Iraqi sects, there's a whole helluva bunch of other shit causing all these problems.

If anything withdrawal will create even more of a power vacuum and will therefore lead to more violence. So how is troop withdrawal 'morally correct'?

Yeah, refer to what I said above. How is troop withdrawal morally correct? It'll cause a whole lot less violence than keeping them in there will. It seems to me that if a troop surge hasn't been able to stop any violence, then keeping them in there won't really help anything, whether that be delaying the inevitable or whatever.

 

[Iheartpaulfrank]

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Ditto. They so flattering. I might go to the ANHS one, mainly because I want to find out what the ancient-language requirements are and Alistair Blanshard's been too slack to put it up on the website.

Yeah, but now I'm starting to get the feeling they sent them to everybody. Or is it just that there are lots of intelligent people on BoS? I got sent an email specifically about Philosophy. Honours in Phil seems pretty pointless, tbh.

 

[stazi]

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i got an email about the Dean's List today, but i'd need a 85WAM in a year to get it pity that this is almost impossible to get in the social-science based commerce subjects

 

[scarybunny]

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Ack I haven't even thought about eduf 1019.

I suppose once I've gotten english out of the way I can spend a few weeks focussing entirely on development. At this point I cant even remember any theories, I just remember Dr Stevie's anecdotes, which i prolly cant get marks for.

Ah well.

 

[jb_nc]

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to have a 40% MRT is earning over 75 000 a year, which yeah, does make you pretty wealthy

 

[neafoo]

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Um, no, it doesn't. I'd consider wealthy at 150,000 - 200,000 a year. And over 75,000 split between two jobs isn't much.

lol when i moved out of home i lived off $14000 a year. I dont think i know anyone who earls 75,000 or over

 

[neafoo]

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I don't actually know how you could live off that living outside home though, unless you a) lived in the middle of nowhere b) never did anything fun c) shared a place (my idea of hell) and d) lived off beans and rice.

haha it was pretty much like that. basically it was a 'studio apartment' that was run down in a back lane and tiny. The rent was $90 a week. I recalculated my pay and it woulda been closer to $15000 i think (which is quite alot more if you keep it all relative) which worked out to nearly $300 a week.
The only fun i had was playing my guitars... i didnt go out once during the 6 months, or buy any new clothes or electronic gizmos and i dont have a car or a mobile phone As for food i pretty much lived off 35c packets of migorang (spelling) noodles.

but yeah that was only for 6 months and now im back home =]

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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I think the welfare state is essentially a combination of communism and theft. It's redistribution of income through unfairly high taxation on people earning over a certain amount (and people with two jobs) so that people like my dad, who hardly could be called "wealthy", who don't earn absurd amounts, and who aren't doing the stereotypical "rich" professions, are taxed at 40% or more to fund bloody social services which shouldn't be supported because they a) lead to dependence and b) reward bad bloody choices.

Besides, I believe in being rewarded for hard work, etc. so someone (again, using my dad as an example) who is willing to put in the effort to work two jobs and therefore anywhere up to 70-80 hours in a week doesn't get taxed in the top bracket for their second job. Hell, when I had two casual jobs I was deemed wealthy enough to warrant one ridiculous taxation load - so I ended up *losing* money by working my second job. Tell me *why* I should be punished for showing initiative and not wanting to suck the taxpayer dry to fund my lifestyle?

Because other people need the help. Simple as that.

 

[Iheartpaulfrank]

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Not semester II related, but anyhoo... Did anyone else find it funny how it started pouring down today, without warning? I was dressed appropriately enough for '28 degrees, fine', and the whole lot, then it started raining and raining. It just happened so suddenly and was over in like 15 minutes.

Discuss.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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I was merrily wandering about the Joseph Banks laboratory watching green tree frogs eat crickets, so I wasn't affected by the rain too much apart from hearing a clap of thunder which kinda frightened me.

Semester II related: where is the philosophy office? I wanna brochure.

 

[Triangulum]

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I was merrily wandering about the Joseph Banks laboratory watching green tree frogs eat crickets, so I wasn't affected by the rain too much apart from hearing a clap of thunder which kinda frightened me.

Semester II related: where is the philosophy office? I wanna brochure.

Brochures for philosophy would be in the SOPHI office. Go up the staircase in the southwest corner of the quad and turn right on the landing.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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thanks mommy. i thought the office might be where that crappy noticeboard is in one of the front entrances, but apparently not. these are the maclaurin hall stairs you refer to, right? near the fabled shortcut i once spoke of?

 

[tennille]

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Anyone else got a really rad email about the Honours Information Week? It makes me seem so smart. I've SO got to go, except that means I have to come in on Wednesday.

I'm going to the Biochemistry and Chemistry honours meetings on Thursday. Bloody retards put the meetings on at the same time, but there's another session for Biochemistry at 5 pm. Looks like I'm gonna have to go to chem lab to kill time that day.