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Hi, I'm a prospective student considering psych and MAQ.

For those students that have done psych at MAQ or are doing it - what do you want to get out of it and what do you see yourself getting employed as?

Also how is psych at MAQ?

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Are you considering becoming a psychologist? If so are you aiming for the Honours program or would you do a diploma? Are you looking at doing your Masters/PhD?
 

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Are you considering becoming a psychologist? If so are you aiming for the Honours program or would you do a diploma? Are you looking at doing your Masters/PhD?
Psychology has always been an area I'm interested in. For a while I wanted to other things like teaching, law etc. but now I again feel drawn to it. So I would definitely be considering those options - probably the honours/masters/phD program rather than diploma if I wanted to pursue psychology as a career which is a real possibility for me. But MAQ's APAC-accredited Bachelor of Arts (Psychology) looks good to me to start.

So yeah, without having a time machine on what I will think in the future, a psychologist is a career path I'd be open to. Do you have any advise? Also are job prospects good for psychologists? Perhaps in areas such as clinical?
 

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Psychology has always been an area I'm interested in. For a while I wanted to other things like teaching, law etc. but now I again feel drawn to it. So I would definitely be considering those options - probably the honours/masters/phD program rather than diploma if I wanted to pursue psychology as a career which is a real possibility for me. But MAQ's APAC-accredited Bachelor of Arts (Psychology) looks good to me to start.

So yeah, without having a time machine on what I will think in the future, a psychologist is a career path I'd be open to. Do you have any advise? Also are job prospects good for psychologists? Perhaps in areas such as clinical?
Disclaimer: I'm not a psychology student but I just looked into it because I was interested in it before and the following is just from friends who are doing psychology.

Okay, from the regularity of your posts, you've probably looked into this already. But, just in case - look at the units in psych, there is a lot more statistics etc than the behaviour side that most kids seem to be interested in.

Second, the honours program is obviously competitive, even if you get the ATAR to get into the B Psych (Hons) you still have to maintain a certain GPA to stay in the program (if you fall below, you revert to a B Arts - Psych).

Thirdly, for clinical etc work, you really should consider postgraduate options - e.g. masters and PhD (you can combine the two programs together) - but as a warning, these programs are very very competitive. They will usually look at your grades, interview, practical experiences, reasons for doing the program etc etc.

Fourth, job prospects a pretty good - if you aren't picky. In terms of charging fees, however, you need to have completed the postgrad in order to charge a certain bracket. It also depends on what kind of career you are looking for - there are the obvious clinical settings; hospitals, private practice, research positions. But there are also other options - e.g. if you do organisational psychology - this opens up HR positions within firms or the public sector. Psychology can also be very useful to another degree - e.g. business etc, and if you look at many managers, many have some experiences or study in psych. Whilst you are studying, you may also consider taking up some work experience roles - e.g. research assistant etc.

Finally, at Mac - the postgraduate options are largely in three options: clinical psych, neuropsych, and organisational psych. Mac's psych reputation is good, and there are lots of facilities and clinics on campus (good for getting some idea or feel for what it's like to practice/research etc).

There's a lot of info available online, have a read of the blurbs about the different areas and consider whether this is something you want to spend many years doing (consider: 3 years bachelor + 1 year honours/diploma etc + 2 year master + PhD).
 

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there is a lot more statistics etc than the behaviour side that most kids seem to be interested in.
Can you back this up? From what I've seen on the website (e.g. http://www.handbook.mq.edu.au/2011/DegreesDiplomas/Degree/Bachelor+of+Arts+-+Psychology), Design and Statistics I and Design and Statistics II are the only compulsory statistics units initially.

Second, the honours program is obviously competitive, even if you get the ATAR to get into the B Psych (Hons) you still have to maintain a certain GPA to stay in the program (if you fall below, you revert to a B Arts - Psych).
I'm thinking of starting out in Bachelor of Arts (Psychology). Is there any way to get into honours from this degree?

Thirdly, for clinical etc work, you really should consider postgraduate options - e.g. masters and PhD (you can combine the two programs together) - but as a warning, these programs are very very competitive. They will usually look at your grades, interview, practical experiences, reasons for doing the program etc etc.
You probably don't know but it would be interesting to know an example of how many students apply and how many students are succesful for this. Who could I ask this to find it out?

Fourth, job prospects a pretty good - if you aren't picky. In terms of charging fees, however, you need to have completed the postgrad in order to charge a certain bracket. It also depends on what kind of career you are looking for - there are the obvious clinical settings; hospitals, private practice, research positions. But there are also other options - e.g. if you do organisational psychology - this opens up HR positions within firms or the public sector. Psychology can also be very useful to another degree - e.g. business etc, and if you look at many managers, many have some experiences or study in psych. Whilst you are studying, you may also consider taking up some work experience roles - e.g. research assistant etc.
I'd probably prefer not working in a hospital, but I'd be open to other positions you mentioned. Also, where would I do research assistant work experience (as an example)?

Finally, at Mac - the postgraduate options are largely in three options: clinical psych, neuropsych, and organisational psych. Mac's psych reputation is good, and there are lots of facilities and clinics on campus (good for getting some idea or feel for what it's like to practice/research etc).
Yeah I'm not sure what of the three areas I'd go into yet - I'd decide as I study my undergrad probably.

There's a lot of info available online, have a read of the blurbs about the different areas and consider whether this is something you want to spend many years doing (consider: 3 years bachelor + 1 year honours/diploma etc + 2 year master + PhD).

Will do. Thanks for your contribution and I hope you can give me some feedback. So 6 years... I'm not 100% sure yet but psychology is a real option for me...
 

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Can you back this up? From what I've seen on the website (e.g. http://www.handbook.mq.edu.au/2011/DegreesDiplomas/Degree/Bachelor+of+Arts+-+Psychology), Design and Statistics I and Design and Statistics II are the only compulsory statistics units initially.
Okay, I'm not a psychology student so I am just relaying what others have said. There is a III to the statistics course, you can see a list here: http://www.courses.mq.edu.au/2012/U...ee+of+Bachelor+of+Psychology#WhatYouWillStudy and PSY351 sounds like statistics to me too.

I'm thinking of starting out in Bachelor of Arts (Psychology). Is there any way to get into honours from this degree?
This page should answer your question: http://www.psy.mq.edu.au/courses/c_4year.htm

You probably don't know but it would be interesting to know an example of how many students apply and how many students are succesful for this. Who could I ask this to find it out?
Hmmm... as far as I know there is a quota for the postgrad courses but as to whether they will tell you the number, I don't know... you could try calling them up and see if they'll tell you.


I'd probably prefer not working in a hospital, but I'd be open to other positions you mentioned. Also, where would I do research assistant work experience (as an example)?
Well, if you are interested in the other areas - would you be doing a combined degree with something else? E.g. if you want to get into human resources, you could do a B Commerce with a major in HR? As for looking for work, you have to be proactive about these things once you start uni, there's the Careers Service which has an internal advertisement board for all kinds of jobs, the other way is to be an excellent student and have one of the lecturers etc approach you.


Yeah I'm not sure what of the three areas I'd go into yet - I'd decide as I study my undergrad probably. Will do. Thanks for your contribution and I hope you can give me some feedback. So 6 years... I'm not 100% sure yet but psychology is a real option for me...
Well if you are still unsure about what you want to do, maybe try considering what are the types of jobs you are looking for or alternatively, what type of environment do you want to work in? What areas interest you? Did you want a job that allows you to travel? How many years do you want to stay in uni? LOL just lots and lots of question and then BOOM you're in uni. If you really are unsure, try to pick a degree sort of in your area and then spend your first year deciding which specialisation/major etc.
 

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Okay, I'm not a psychology student so I am just relaying what others have said. There is a III to the statistics course, you can see a list here: http://www.courses.mq.edu.au/2012/U...ee+of+Bachelor+of+Psychology#WhatYouWillStudy and PSY351 sounds like statistics to me too.
Yeah so there's probably like 5 or so statistics units... I concede its not be ignored but I think saying a majority of the degree is statistics might be an exaggearation.

This page should answer your question: http://www.psy.mq.edu.au/courses/c_4year.htm
It didn't specifically say what the entry requirements for psych honours were, so I've emailed them for this information.

Hmmm... as far as I know there is a quota for the postgrad courses but as to whether they will tell you the number, I don't know... you could try calling them up and see if they'll tell you.
I've emailed for this too.

Well, if you are interested in the other areas - would you be doing a combined degree with something else? E.g. if you want to get into human resources, you could do a B Commerce with a major in HR? As for looking for work, you have to be proactive about these things once you start uni, there's the Careers Service which has an internal advertisement board for all kinds of jobs, the other way is to be an excellent student and have one of the lecturers etc approach you.
I've considered law. But if I do Psych/Law I will only have 2 units of electives which is nothing compared to the 10 units I get in the Arts (Psych) degree! And the same goes with Psych (Honours) - I only get 6 elective units for that. The elective units are very important to me. Do you think if I get the ATAR for Honours I should do it anyway?

Well if you are still unsure about what you want to do, maybe try considering what are the types of jobs you are looking for or alternatively, what type of environment do you want to work in? What areas interest you? Did you want a job that allows you to travel? How many years do you want to stay in uni? LOL just lots and lots of question and then BOOM you're in uni. If you really are unsure, try to pick a degree sort of in your area and then spend your first year deciding which specialisation/major etc.
I like working with people under certain circumstances, like say clinically. I think I would hate something like school councillor or a welfare worker. I'm thinking something where I'm my boss, like private practice or research. The work environment I prefer to work in probably doesn't involve sitting down all day in the same place. As for years in uni, I'm prepared to stay as long as is needed if I become really passionate for the degree once I get started. If I pick a broader degree like BA, I won't get APAC-accreditation nor will I get any worth out of my ATAR (which I'm expecting will be more or less 90ish + 5 bonus points).
 

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Can you back this up? From what I've seen on the website (e.g. http://www.handbook.mq.edu.au/2011/DegreesDiplomas/Degree/Bachelor+of+Arts+-+Psychology), Design and Statistics I and Design and Statistics II are the only compulsory statistics units initially.
My boyfriend studies neuropsych so what i know is pretty much based entirely off what i hear through him. The way i understand it is that while there are a few compulsory stat courses, the actual use of statistics becomes increasingly integrated into 'regular' psych courses as you get in to 300 lvl units.

I'd probably prefer not working in a hospital, but I'd be open to other positions you mentioned. Also, where would I do research assistant work experience (as an example)?
There are both paid and volunteer research assistant positions open to undergrads, of course i imagine you would have to have a pretty impressive academic record to score a paid gig. Can't find the link atm but will post when i do.

EDIT: Here's the link for the Research Intern program, it only mentions paid positions but i'm pretty sure it also mentions volunteer positions on the application form.
http://www.psy.mq.edu.au/courses/intern_scheme.htm
 
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It didn't specifically say what the entry requirements for psych honours were, so I've emailed them for this information.
If you click on the 'What are the Entry Requirements for the Honours Year?' link there is actually a highly detailed explanation of the requirements depending on the undergraduate degree you took and year in which you started that degree.
 
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If you click on the 'What are the Entry Requirements for the Honours Year?' link there is actually a highly detailed explanation of the requirements depending on the undergraduate degree you took and year in which you started that degree.
I coudn't find said link. Would you my posting the link here?

EDIT: for some reason the link is different from what it was when i clicked on it before, so nevermind
 
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Also, does anyone know why PSY349 is compulsory for Psych (Hons) students but not compulsory for BA (Psych) or BSci (Psych) students?

Evidence: http://www.courses.mq.edu.au/2012/U...achelor+of+Arts+-+Psychology#WhatYouWillStudy verses http://www.courses.mq.edu.au/2012/U...achelor+of+Arts+-+Psychology#WhatYouWillStudy

Edit: You will also notice that more 300 level units are done in the Hons program. Why is this? MAQ states that the Hons stream is not intended to be more prestigious. So why the difference and consequent less amount of elective units for the Hons stream?
 
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