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Frie

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I notice that in some of the sample answers of past exams, for questions like "Hence show the maximum area is ... cm^2", the sample answers include an area where the person actually tests that it is a max, by testing 1 up and 1 down.

Is that test actually necessary? Because I have never gotten into the habit of doing it and the question just says show the maximum area is "[insertmaxarea]" , not prove it is the max area.

Edit: yeah i think i messed up thread title. but it's more of a generic thing about questions relating to what is said above.
 

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if it ask you to prove its a max point, you have to prove the stationary point is a maximum, by either second derivitave or a change in gradient
 

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Yeah, if it explicitly tells you to prove it, of course I will. But like, what if it says show that max is "bla bla bla".
 

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Yeah, if it explicitly tells you to prove it, of course I will. But like, what if it says show that max is "bla bla bla".
Just because the question mentions that it is a max, doesn't mean you can assume it is a max because you're really just using the answer to get to the answer. The question says 'show' so you have to prove it is a max.
 

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Just because the question mentions that it is a max, doesn't mean you can assume it is a max because you're really just using the answer to get to the answer. The question says 'show' so you have to prove it is a max.
Alright thanks, I'll try keep that in mind tomorrow :)
 

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There was a question that was "Find the minimum distance between the cars" today, were we meant to prove it was minimum, cause I didn't want to spend a lot of time, and just left that out but I think I got the distance right.
 

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There was a question that was "Find the minimum distance between the cars" today, were we meant to prove it was minimum, cause I didn't want to spend a lot of time, and just left that out but I think I got the distance right.
Yes you did. All you had to do was find the second derivative. Since it was just a number, you didn't even have to sub t into it to prove it's a minimum.
 

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I was taught to always show it via second derivative or first derivative table
 

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