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could sum1 please do the following?

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a particle is projected 30ms at the foot of an inclined plane which is
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b) perpendicularly

[FONT=JS 明朝]2) a vertical pole subtends an angle[FONT=JS 明朝]α at a point P on the ground. Two particles are projected simultaneously from P, making angles [FONT=JS 明朝]β and γ. The particle projected at [FONT=JS 明朝]β strikes the top of the pole and the instant the latter strikes the bottom. Prove that tan[FONT=JS 明朝]β- tanγ = tan[FONT=JS 明朝]α<O:p</O:p
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shsshs said:
could sum1 please do the following?

1)
a particle is projected 30ms at the foot of an inclined plane which is
30[FONT=JS 明朝]∘ to the horizontal. For what angles of projection will the particle strike the incline plane

a) horizontally
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b) perpendicularly

[FONT=JS 明朝]2) a vertical pole subtends an angle[FONT=JS 明朝]α at a point P on the ground. Two particles are projected simultaneously from P, making angles [FONT=JS 明朝]β and γ. The particle projected at [FONT=JS 明朝]β strikes the top of the pole and the instant the latter strikes the bottom. Prove that tan[FONT=JS 明朝]β- tanγ = tan[FONT=JS 明朝]α<O:p</O:p
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Hi shsshs,

Question 1a):

i) Both parts a) and b) involve statements about the velocity(remember vectors: directions as well) of the projectile at point of contact.
A natural question would then be "what is mathematically related to the direction/angle of velocity"?
A: The gradient of the path of the projectile at point of contact.

ii) How does one go about finding the gradient at a particular point?
A: dy/dx.

Thus, we require the equation of path of the projectile:

y = xTan@ - gx2/(2(vCos@)2) ; where @ is the angle of projection and v the initial speed.

---> dy/dx = Tan@ - gx/(vCos@)2 ____________________ (1)

Now, striking "horizontally" ---> dy/dx = 0 at point of contact.

---> 0 = Tan@ - gx/(vCos@)2
---> x = (v2Cos@Sin@)/g ____________________ (2)

To determine @, we need another expression for 'x' at point of contact. We get that from considering where the projectile strikes the incline:

a) The equation of the incline is: y = xTan(30)

Substituting a) into the equation of path to find point of contact:

xTan(30) = xTan@ - gx2/(2(vCos@)2)

We can cancel out 'x' on both sides since x = 0 is a trivial solution which we are not interested in:

Tan(30) = Tan@ - gx/(2(vCos@)2)

---> x = [2(vCos@)2(Tan@ - Tan(30))]/g ____________________ (3)

Solve (3) & (2) simultaneously:

[2(vCos@)2(Tan@ - Tan(30))]/g = (v2Cos@Sin@)/g

---> 2Cos2@(Tan@ - Tan(30)) = Cos@Sin@
---> 2(Tan@ - Tan(30)) = Tan@
---> Tan@ = 2Tan(30) = 2/Sqrt(3)

i.e. @ = ArcTan(2/Sqrt(3)) is the required angle of projection. (where "ArcTan" is the inverse tangent function)


Q1b):

We use the same argument as in Q1a). Thus, striking perpendicularly to the incline means dy/dx = -1/Tan(30) = -Sqrt(3) , since 'Tan(30)' is the gradient of the incline.

Equating expression (1) with this yields:

-Sqrt(3) = Tan@ - gx/(vCos@)2

---> x = (vCos@)2(Tan@ + Sqrt(3))/g ____________________ (4)

Now, the second equation required to solve for @ is the same equation, (3), we used in Q1a) for the point of contact (since the setup does not change here).

Equating (3) and (4) above gives:

[2(vCos@)2(Tan@ - Tan(30))]/g = (vCos@)2(Tan@ + Sqrt(3))/g

---> 2(Tan@ - Tan(30)) = (Tan@ + Sqrt(3))
---> Tan@ = Sqrt(3) + 2Tan(30) = Sqrt(3) + 2/Sqrt(3) = 5/Sqrt(3)

i.e. @ = ArcTan(5/Sqrt(3)) is the required angle of projection.


Question 2:

Let P be the 'origin' in the frame of reference of the projections of the particles.

Let 'd' be the horizontal distance between P and the vertical pole along the ground.
Therefore, the vertical height 'h' of the pole is given by: h = dTanα

At position x = d the difference between the heights of the particles is h. So using the equations of path for both particles we get:

y1 - y2 = h = dTanα

---> dTanα = [dTanβ - gd2/(2(v1Cosβ)2)] - [dTanγ - gd2/(2(v2Cosγ)2)]

Cancel d from both sides as d doesn't = 0:

Tanα = [Tanβ - gd/(2(v1Cosβ)2)] - [Tanγ - gd/(2(v2Cosγ)2)]

i.e. Tanα = Tanβ - Tanγ + (gd/2)[1/(v2Cosγ)2 - 1/(v1Cosβ)2] ____________________ (5)

Now, the second piece of information we know is that both particles strike the pole at their respective positions at the same instant t0. So let's consider their respective horizontal displacements:

a) x1 = v1t1Cosβ
b) x2 = v2t2Cosγ

So at t1 = t2 = t0, we know that x1 = x2 = d.

Equating a) and b) yields:

d = v1t0Cosβ = v2t0Cosγ

---> 1/(v2Cosγ)2 = 1/(v1Cosβ)2

i.e. 1/(v2Cosγ)2 - 1/(v1Cosβ)2 = 0 ____________________ (6)

Substitute (6) into (5) gives:

Tanα = Tanβ - Tanγ + (gd/2)[1/(v2Cosγ)2 - 1/(v1Cosβ)2]
= Tanβ - Tanγ + 0

-----> Tanα = Tanβ - Tanγ

as required.



Hope that helps.
 

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thankyou heapss
i did most of what you did but i couldnt finish it before.

nice UAI btw
 

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What...............99 isnt a great UAI.
Could you do my HSC at the end of year and get me a satisfactory UAI.

LOL I think 99 is bloody awesome.
Nice work anyway
 

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