• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

Prempt the Questions Thread (2 Viewers)

adnan91

Member
Joined
Mar 29, 2008
Messages
347
Location
Disney Land
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
I love biopol!! I love haber I love esters ethanol alternative fuel thingo i swear i've done it atleast 15 times anyway I love chemistry as a whole i want a 90+ raw mark
 

JasonNg1025

Member
Joined
Oct 14, 2007
Messages
295
Gender
Male
HSC
2010
Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: Prempt the Questions Thread

Mmm, probably a polyhydroxyalkanoate, but is the polyhydroxybutanoate part of the polyhydroxyalkanoate group?

Cause I'm too used to writing Biopol as a PHB, so not sure if I am wrong
 

Shadose

Enjoy Life
Joined
Sep 21, 2007
Messages
255
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
lol, The love you guys have for chemistry motivates me B-)
 

crammy90

Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2006
Messages
264
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
how exactly do bacteria produce it
do the alcaligenes eutrophus act on sugars?
or is on plant material :S
 

henry08

Active Member
Joined
Mar 13, 2008
Messages
1,174
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
On Molasses and waste products, so probably sugar and plant material.

I hate esters. I love karina.
 

SkimDawg

Feeling Good
Joined
Nov 23, 2007
Messages
200
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
Yeah a question about esters sounds likely. I reckon:
- What steps are taken to purify and sanitise water (hasn't been something like this since hsc 2002)
- An Ethanol renewable resource question with a twist
- Haber process and its significance in world history
- A battery that you have studied
- A synthetic bio polymer (please no!)
- A neutralisation substance question (seems to be common these days)
- For shipwrecks, a 7 marker about how electrolysis has blah blah.... , as well as some first hand investigation about the rate of rusting in different conditions or acids, ect.

It wouldnt suprise me if none of this is in the paper lol
 

samwell

Member
Joined
Nov 19, 2007
Messages
400
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
I hope we have the identification of ions prac. I luved that prac and esp the flame test bcoz i ignored one safety precaution and almost burnt my eye when heating a lead salt. lol
 

crammy90

Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2006
Messages
264
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
Jason NG did mathematics EX 1/2 last year when he was in yr 9 :S
thats insane lol
 

henry08

Active Member
Joined
Mar 13, 2008
Messages
1,174
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
I would like a q on the historical context of the Haber process. Not so keen on identifying ions.
 

axlenatore

Scuba Steve
Joined
May 13, 2007
Messages
1,048
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: Prempt the Questions Thread

tommykins said:
Pretty sure Biopol is PHA. Poly-hydroxyalkanoate produced by the bacteria alkaligene eutrophus.
Once source i have says alkaligene eutrophus makes PHB
 

tommykins

i am number -e^i*pi
Joined
Feb 18, 2007
Messages
5,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: Prempt the Questions Thread

axlenatore said:
Once source i have says alkaligene eutrophus makes PHB
probably both? lol
 

nandayo

ismist
Joined
Jun 25, 2006
Messages
252
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: Prempt the Questions Thread

tommykins said:
probably both? lol
As far as I know Biopol consists of PHB (polyhyroxybutyrate) and PHV (polyhydroxyvalerate) because valeric acid is added in the process and pretty sure PHV is produced as a natural defence mechanism by the Alcaligenes Eutrophus.

You can't say it produces 'PHA'...PHAs are polyhyroxyalkanoates - that's a generic term and kind of avoids stating what it actually produces. Like saying the dehydration of ethanol produces an alkene.
 

tommykins

i am number -e^i*pi
Joined
Feb 18, 2007
Messages
5,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: Prempt the Questions Thread

nandayo said:
As far as I know Biopol consists of PHB (polyhyroxybutyrate) and PHV (polyhydroxyvalerate) because valeric acid is added in the process and pretty sure PHV is produced as a natural defence mechanism by the Alcaligenes Eutrophus.

You can't say it produces 'PHA'...PHAs are polyhyroxyalkanoates - that's a generic term and kind of avoids stating what it actually produces. Like saying the dehydration of ethanol produces an alkene.
thanks for t hat.
 

henry08

Active Member
Joined
Mar 13, 2008
Messages
1,174
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: 回复: Re: Prempt the Questions Thread

axlenatore said:
Once source i have says alkaligene eutrophus makes PHB
That is what I thought.
 

crammy90

Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2006
Messages
264
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
ive got poly-3-hydroxybutanoate
i referenced it somewhere to confirm ages ago when i wrote it
i read about pha whats the diff with pha and phb
what are the alcali defending themselves from lol
 

syriangabsta

Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2007
Messages
297
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Defeniately Haber pRocess. All my teachers have said it would come too, hasnt been in for a while.
 

tommykins

i am number -e^i*pi
Joined
Feb 18, 2007
Messages
5,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
crammy90 said:
ive got poly-3-hydroxybutanoate
i referenced it somewhere to confirm ages ago when i wrote it
i read about pha whats the diff with pha and phb
what are the alcali defending themselves from lol
Polyhydroxybutyrate (PHB) is a polyhydroxyalkanoate (PHA), a polymer belonging to the polyesters class that was first isolated and characterized in 1925 by French microbiologist Maurice Lemoigne. PHB is produced by micro-organisms (like Alcaligenes eutrophus or Bacillus megaterium) apparently in response to conditions of physiological stress.


wikipedia
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 2)

Top