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1. the roots of x^3+px^2+qx+r=0 form an AP.
prove that 2p^3+27r-9pq=0

2. 1)express (tan 4a) in terms of (tan a)
2) hence solve



plz help:wave:
 
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lol, Neap question?

I saw a question like this today, but cbf'd to try it. Damns. COuld've hinted soemthing at least.
 

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1.

let the roots be (a-1), a, (a+1)

sum of roots: -b/a

therefore, (a-1)+a+(a+1) = -p
3a=-p
a=-p/3

when a=-p/3,

(-p/3)^3 + p(-p/3)^2 + q (-p/3) + r = 0

algebraic manipulation of the above ^ gets 2p^3+27r-9pq=0
 

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2. 1)

tan4a
= tan(2a+2a)
= (2tan2a) / (1-tan²2a) [using the double angle formula expansion]
= [2(2tana/1-tan²a)] / (1-tan²2a) [using the double angle formula expansion on the numerator)
= [2(2tana/1-tan²a)] / (1-{2tana/1-tan²a}²) [using the double angle formula expansion on the denominator]

and i think its algebraic manipulation from there :bomb:

cant understand the 2nd q
 

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HSCsimulator said:
1.

let the roots be (a-1), a, (a+1)

sum of roots: -b/a

therefore, (a-1)+a+(a+1) = -p
3a=-p
a=-p/3

when a=-p/3,

(-p/3)^3 + p(-p/3)^2 + q (-p/3) + r = 0

algebraic manipulation of the above ^ gets 2p^3+27r-9pq=0

how....how could u let the roots be a+1 and a-1 ?? at least use a+d and a-d,isn't it?
 

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HSCsimulator said:
2. 1)

tan4a
= tan(2a+2a)
= (2tan2a) / (1-tan²2a) [using the double angle formula expansion]
= [2(2tana/1-tan²a)] / (1-tan²2a) [using the double angle formula expansion on the numerator)
= [2(2tana/1-tan²a)] / (1-{2tana/1-tan²a}²) [using the double angle formula expansion on the denominator]

and i think its algebraic manipulation from there :bomb:

cant understand the 2nd q

dont no how to type square root in my computer:bomb:
 
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Re: 回复: Re: polynomials Qs~~~~

Hikari Clover said:
how....how could u let the roots be a+1 and a-1 ?? at least use a+d and a-d,isn't it?
it still comes to the same thing:O

cause when you do sum of the roots, the "d" disappears
 

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Re: 回复: Re: polynomials Qs~~~~

Hikari Clover said:
here is the 2(2)

i only think i can solve that if the root 3's werent there lol
 

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回复: Re: 回复: Re: polynomials Qs~~~~

use this identity to solve 2(2)


what i knew is to let a=pi/24.........
 

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Re: 回复: Re: polynomials Qs~~~~

Hikari Clover said:
how....how could u let the roots be a+1 and a-1 ?? at least use a+d and a-d,isn't it?
fishy89sg said:
it still comes to the same thing:O
cause when you do sum of the roots, the "d" disappears
Be careful with that. It doesn't really matter for this question to let the roots be a - 1, a, a + 1 because of cancellations, but don't ever do this if the question asks to find the roots. You can never assume that the arithmetc mean is 1 out of your imagination.

Q2 might have been easier using complex numbers.
 
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