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Here is how I am going so far in all my subjects:

Subject - Internal Raw Marks out of 100 - Rank
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1. Mathematics 3U - 70.9% - 4/8
2. Mathematics 4U - 43.1% - 2/2 - Hard exams + 08' CSSA Trial!
3. Advanced English - 71% - 10/36
4. Studies of Religion 1U - 82.3% - 4/62
5. Chemistry - 83.7% - 1-2/14
6. Physics - 85.6% - 1-2/25

Keeping in mind I hope to get the following in my HSC exams [Raw Marks]!
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1. Mathematics 3U - 80-90%
2. Mathematics 4U - 66% Raw [80/120] - pretty much E4!
3. Advanced English - 70-75%
4. Studies of Religion - 90%+
5. Chemistry - 90%+
6. Physics - 90%+

I need to know - Are my ranks good? Which is MORE important - Internals or External HSC mark?
I'm aiming for 95+ UAI...should I be able to get it?
 

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Rank of school?

Your own hopeful mark for HSC does not come into this estimation in any shape or form.
 

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400s, then I would say low 90s tops with your ranks.
 

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Why would school matter - if it did, wouldn't that defeat whole purpose of moderating developed by BOS?

Low 90s as in 90.0 to 90.95+ or 90-94?
 

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Rankings matter because you are not first in your year. Not being able to come first in a not-so-well ranked school says a lot of your abilities in contrast with the whole state. You are right, moderation will bring you to where you really are in the state, which is lower than what you are now in your school.

Low 90s as in 90-93
 

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With regards to Moderation - just to clear things up:

Let's say the following:
- I ranked 10th out of 36 for Advanced English
- School Assessment: I scored 72.
- HSC Exam: I score 79
- HSC Exam 10th Highest Mark was 75.

After Moderation, will my scores be as follows:
- School Assessment Mark: 75
- HSC Exam Mark: 79
- Aligned HSC Mark: 77
 

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That is essentially correct. Provided that 10th highest score is in fact 75, which will depend of the quality of your cohort.
 

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I did this before..
HSC Marks are the Marks I hope to get in my HSC Exams - and I will do everything it takes to get it!

<table class="MsoTableGrid" style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr style=""> <td style="border: 1pt solid black; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 66.95pt;" valign="top" width="89"> Subject<o></o>
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</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: black black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.5pt;" valign="top" width="83"> School Assessment Mark<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: black black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 77.9pt;" valign="top" width="104"> HSC Assessment Mark Range<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: black black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 54.95pt;" valign="top" width="73"> HSC Assessment Mark<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: black black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> Moderated School Assessment Mark<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: black black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> HSC Assessment Mark<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: black black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 39.15pt;" valign="top" width="52"> Aligned HSCMark<o></o>
</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 66.95pt;" valign="top" width="89"> Mathematics 3U<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 36.45pt;" valign="top" width="49"> 4/8<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.5pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 70<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 77.9pt;" valign="top" width="104"> 4<sup>th</sup> Highest Mark: 83<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 54.95pt;" valign="top" width="73"> 88<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 83<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 88<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 39.15pt;" valign="top" width="52"> 86<o></o>
</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 66.95pt;" valign="top" width="89"> Mathematics 4U<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 36.45pt;" valign="top" width="49"> 2/2<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.5pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 44
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 77.9pt;" valign="top" width="104"> 2<sup>nd</sup> Highest Mark: 85
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 54.95pt;" valign="top" width="73"> 91<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 85<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 91<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 39.15pt;" valign="top" width="52"> 88<o></o>
</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 66.95pt;" valign="top" width="89"> Advanced English<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 36.45pt;" valign="top" width="49"> 10/33<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.5pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 70<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 77.9pt;" valign="top" width="104"> 10<sup>th</sup> Highest Mark: 75
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 54.95pt;" valign="top" width="73"> 74<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 75<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 74<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 39.15pt;" valign="top" width="52"> 75<o></o>
</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 66.95pt;" valign="top" width="89"> Studies of Religion<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 36.45pt;" valign="top" width="49"> 4/60<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.5pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 82
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 77.9pt;" valign="top" width="104"> 4<sup>th</sup> Highest Mark: 86<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 54.95pt;" valign="top" width="73"> 94<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 86<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.1pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 94<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 39.15pt;" valign="top" width="52"> 90<o></o>
</td> </tr> <tr style=""> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 66.95pt;" valign="top" width="89"> Chemistry<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 36.45pt;" valign="top" width="49"> 1-2/11<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 62.5pt;" valign="top" width="83"> 83<o></o>
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color black black -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 77.9pt;" valign="top" width="104"> 2<sup>nd</sup> Highest Mark: 89<o></o>
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <o>*Note: I estimated performances of my cohort, most of them are pretty capable. Althoug 2007 class was really full of dumbass/gronks.

Plugging those scores into SAM with slight scaling depending on subject.. and I get 95+..... is this accurate?
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50%+ of your year getting over Band 5 in 3U Maths? I highly doubt that. Same for your 4U, SOR, Chem and Phy. Your estimation in Eng is the only fair one.

Ask you teacher of your school's percentage of cohort getting over a certain mark (eg band 5) for a subject. You seem to have hugely overestimated yourself and your cohort.
 

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What do you mean by "slight scaling"?
Just a note: when you plug mark in SAM, it will automatically scaled it for you depending on the mark plugged and its relation to the state performance.
 

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Better yet, ask them how closely do your's school's raw mark resemble HSC mark.
 

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why be trippin 4?
tie ur laces yo

LOL

sorry i just HAD to do that

bahah.
 

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Infidelity said:
Here is how I am going so far in all my subjects:

Subject - Internal Raw Marks out of 100 - Rank
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1. Mathematics 3U - 70.9% - 4/8
2. Mathematics 4U - 43.1% - 2/2 - Hard exams + 08' CSSA Trial!
3. Advanced English - 71% - 10/36
4. Studies of Religion 1U - 82.3% - 4/62
5. Chemistry - 83.7% - 1-2/14
6. Physics - 85.6% - 1-2/25

Keeping in mind I hope to get the following in my HSC exams [Raw Marks]!
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1. Mathematics 3U - 80-90%
2. Mathematics 4U - 66% Raw [80/120] - pretty much E4!
3. Advanced English - 70-75%
4. Studies of Religion - 90%+
5. Chemistry - 90%+
6. Physics - 90%+

I need to know - Are my ranks good? Which is MORE important - Internals or External HSC mark?
I'm aiming for 95+ UAI...should I be able to get it?
I think you can get a UAI of 90-94 at max. But try as hard as you can you might surprise yourself and get 95.
btw, why does your signature say an aim of 99.95?
 

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So best bet is to get to about 90+ in most of my exams or what I can and hope that the rest of my cohort does well?
 

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Yes that would be a good idea. But only if it is productive.
 

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Here is what I'm sitting at after results from my Trial HSC Exams - Can I get a UAI estimate? I am so worried about it:

* Mathematics 3U --> 4/8 with 68% School Assessment Mark
* Mathematics 4U --> 2/2 with 44% School Assessment Mark
* Advanced English --> 10/32 with 70% School Assessment Mark
* Studies of Religion --> 4/62 with 82% School Assessment Mark
* Chemistry --> 3/11 with 82% School Assessment Mark
* Physics --> 3/11 with 83% School Assessment Mark

School rank: ~Mid 300 because it is a new school.
To make estimation more effective for you guys, a guy from previous year group did exactly same subjects as I did, but his cohort was pathetic... He got the following results:

* Mathematics 3U --> 2/8 with 70% School Assessment Mark
* Mathematics 4U --> 1/2 with 48% School Assessment Mark
* Advanced English --> ~23/32 with 58% School Assessment Mark
* Studies of Religion --> 58/62 with 47% School Assessment Mark
* Chemistry --> 1/8 with 82% School Assessment Mark
* Physics --> 1/14 with 79% School Assessment Mark

----> His UAI was 92.16

What do you think I would get, considering I am stronger in English?
 

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Infidelity said:
Here is what I'm sitting at after results from my Trial HSC Exams - Can I get a UAI estimate? I am so worried about it:

* Mathematics 3U --> 4/8 with 68% School Assessment Mark
* Mathematics 4U --> 2/2 with 44% School Assessment Mark
* Advanced English --> 10/32 with 70% School Assessment Mark
* Studies of Religion --> 4/62 with 82% School Assessment Mark
* Chemistry --> 3/11 with 82% School Assessment Mark
* Physics --> 3/11 with 83% School Assessment Mark

School rank: ~Mid 300 because it is a new school.
To make estimation more effective for you guys, a guy from previous year group did exactly same subjects as I did, but his cohort was pathetic... He got the following results:

* Mathematics 3U --> 2/8 with 70% School Assessment Mark
* Mathematics 4U --> 1/2 with 48% School Assessment Mark
* Advanced English --> ~23/32 with 58% School Assessment Mark
* Studies of Religion --> 58/62 with 47% School Assessment Mark
* Chemistry --> 1/8 with 82% School Assessment Mark
* Physics --> 1/14 with 79% School Assessment Mark

----> His UAI was 92.16

What do you think I would get, considering I am stronger in English?
Um...

I don't think it will still make a huge difference, you know. He basically performed better than you in all his subjects except English Adavanced and SOR. But considering that your cohort would be academically upper than the last year's, you will probably look at 93.
 

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