NSW police drag man from car, bash him (2 Viewers)

[44Ronin]

Ignoring the whole 'durr violence is for the slow'

Thinking that some people need a bit of sense smacked into them does not equate to being in favour of police brutality, so um

The police officers are not supposed to use violence as a means of punishment. They are given powers of detainment, not antiquidated mob violence punishment that doesn't even work.

Do you really think for one second you'd be a happier person in a place or environment where mob violence is allowed and endorsed?

Your idiot philosophy that "violence is good because it teaches people the right way" isn't even convincing. Violence can't teach anyone anything except submission. There will always be those whom violence does not deter. These individuals are usually the majority of people that commit the most serious crimes.

By sensless engaging in the violent punishment of these individuals naively reasoning they will learn something, it is the punishers who brutalise themselves. The use of violence is self-perpetual. Do we want to run the risk of brutalising our law enforcers into a senselessly violent police force?

 

[quik.]

The police officers are not supposed to use violence as a means of punishment. They are given powers of detainment, not antiquidated mob violence punishment that doesn't even work.

Do you really think for once second you'd be a happier person in a place or environment where mob violence is allowed and endorsed?

Pretty sure you are a spastic or a troll so, for the last time eh

Not advocating mob violence or police brutality

I already told you that personally I don't believe laws are automatically 100% right and applicable simply because they are there so I don't care if they aren't supposed to, I am glad they did. In answer to your question, I would be happier if police were allowed more freedom in the handling of dickheads like the man in the article. He was clearly out of it, had a suspended licence for the exact same shit. It's not like he was just a suspect or whatever.

That doesn't mean that I am suggesting if you go over the speed limit by 2km/hour a cop is going to chase you down and ram his foot up your colon, and so help me god if you suggest that I am implying that I will fight you on the internet.

 

[44Ronin]

Pretty sure you are a spastic or a troll so, for the last time eh

This you see, is your problem. You have a limited frame of thought.

Not advocating mob violence or police brutality

You approve of it.

I already told you that personally I don't believe laws are automatically 100% right and applicable simply because they are there so I don't care if they aren't supposed to, I am glad they did.

Because you approve of it.

In answer to your question, I would be happier if police were allowed more freedom in the handling of dickheads like the man in the article. He was clearly out of it, had a suspended licence for the exact same shit. It's not like he was just a suspect or whatever.

According to you the cops by default aren't dickheads because they are cops ?

Two wrongs do not make a right.

I say they are dickheads because they cannot do their job properly. The drunk driver did wrong, the also cops did wrong. One does not justify the actions of the other.

That doesn't mean that I am suggesting if you go over the speed limit by 2km/hour a cop is going to chase you down and ram his foot up your colon, and so help me god if you suggest that I am implying that I will fight you on the internet.

No, you suggested that it is okay for cops to beat someone to a pulp.

Quik just read it over.....incase you are dislexic and cannot remember nor read what you posted

Meh I'm glad they stuck the boot in

To misread or confuse some else's post is one thing, but to confuse yourself is just incompetence.

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

44ronin, stop being a retarded person plz

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i don't give two shits about this issue. i don't care about the drunk driver being brutalise. yeah discipline the police and whatever but he gets no sympathy from me.

 

[Zrap]

Bad cops bad cops, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they're coming for you, BAD COPS

 

[WibbleWonger]

He drunk drove and then got beaten up, who gives a fuck. Suspend the cops for a week then put them back out on the street to protect and serve the citizens.

 

[Graney]

I'm not surprised at all. Violent abuses of power are always going to be an inherent part of police work.

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

bash moar drink driver's

THE COPS R THE EVIL 1'S

 

[Omnidragon]

Law is all man-made anyway. Doesn't mean it's right or wrong.

 

[Graney]

Speeding is an example of where the law and morality agree though. Something only a moral nihilist could say is less than an immoral act.

 

[Omnidragon]

Well there's always going to be examples either side. How about some hard ones like euthunasia or abortion?

Even on speeding, why is 60kph the 'right' speed? Why shouldn't it be 50kph? Or 40kph? Why is $50 the right amount for a fine? Why not $60? These are the things we were taught to think about in law school - never take the law for granted.

 

[Uncle]

Privatize the police.

hahahahahahaha

 

[Pain]

Well there's always going to be examples either side. How about some hard ones like euthunasia or abortion?

Even on speeding, why is 60kph the 'right' speed? Why shouldn't it be 50kph? Or 40kph? Why is $50 the right amount for a fine? Why not $60? These are the things we were taught to think about in law school - never take the law for granted.

60kph is the right speed due to PHYSICS. Seriously, what an idiotic question. I could go into the science, but I'm sure your powers of google aren't as retarded as your powers of rhetoric.

 

[Serius]

oh hi, i see you misspelled "politics" there. 60kmph has very little to do with physics, its all about politics and how many deaths are acceptable for a certain speed. Otherwise the speed limit would be 20kmph if only 1 death annually was acceptable, or we would see a speed limit of 80kmph if more deaths than occur currently was acceptable.

 

[Freedom_]

“Police brutality” is a well-known feature of the current corrupt system. Any person with an iota of intelligence would see right through this bullshit attempt by some bureaucrat to "fix" or "amend" the officer.

what this society needs is to implement a free system which would end the current spectacle of police being considered by many communities as alien “imperial” colonizers, there not to serve but to oppress the community.

 

[runoutofsleep]

how exactly would your "free" system achieve these ends, mr freedom?

 

[Freedom_]

Privatize the roads.

Governmental police have not only no incentive to be efficient or worry about their “customers’” needs; they also live with the ever-present temptation to wield their power of force in a brutal and coercive manner.

 

[runoutofsleep]

Privatize the roads.

yes i see.

you are clearly quite the prodigious thinker.

freeeeeeeeeedom!

 

[Graney]

oh hi, i see you misspelled "politics" there. 60kmph has very little to do with physics, its all about politics and how many deaths are acceptable for a certain speed. Otherwise the speed limit would be 20kmph if only 1 death annually was acceptable, or we would see a speed limit of 80kmph if more deaths than occur currently was acceptable.

It's not that simple. Speed limits are based on a number of factors, especially the exposure and frequency of hazards and visibility. Visibility is a big part of it, lower speed limits must be applied where hazards may appear suddenly. If suburban streets were increased to an 80km/h limit, in many cases of concealed driveways this would reduce the reaction time given for a driver to react to a reversing car to below the required 3 seconds.

Say a suburban driveway is on a corner. Cars approaching around this corner at 50km/h can see approximately 3 second ahead. This is the accepted minimum time required for the average person to react and stop a vehicle. Increase the speed to 80km/h, and the visibility and time allowed for reaction moves closer to only 1 second ahead. The reversing driver is faced with a situation where they cannot ever reverse safely. Any car they can see will not have sufficient time to react and come to a complete stop from 80km/h.

Advisory speed signs you see on the corners of windy roads for example, often seem excessively slow, however the speed is not based on whether it is possible for a vehicle to round the corner at that speed, but rather it's based on visibility and the speed needed to be able to see 3 seconds ahead through the corner.

I'm not completely familiar with how road speed limits are determined, but these are real examples and demonstrate how there is science and logic behind the determination of road speed limits.

It's always going to be a compromise. Getting this exact balance right is a difficult task best left to specialist engineers, however there is certainly utilitarian benefit in having road speed limits even if the exact figure is not always perfect.

 

[katie tully]

this is why i luv the police