Need help with distinguishing Commerce/Law courses at Macquarie (1 Viewer)

[mymuse]

I got a UAI of 96, so all of these courses are in my range, but I'm extremely confused as to what the difference is between them.

B Commerce - Accounting/B Laws
B Commerce - Actuarial Studies/B Laws
B Commerce/ Laws
I did a bit of research, and I believe the three courses are exactly the same, with a 3 year law degree, then branching out for 2 years to study the specifics of the other part of the degree. But can anyone distinguish them in terms of interest, job prospects, incomes? thanks.

and a final question, as my initial goal was for Commerce/Law at Sydney Uni, what do you think would be the best way of transferring there? doing a commerce/law course at Macquarie then applying for a transfer? or starting off with a commerce degree at USyd? thanks again.

 

[xeuyrawp]

I got a UAI of 96.3, so all of these courses are in my range, but I'm extremely confused as to what the difference is between them.

B Commerce - Accounting/B Laws
B Commerce - Actuarial Studies/B Laws
B Commerce/ Laws
I did a bit of research, and I believe the three courses are exactly the same, with a 3 year law degree, then branching out for 2 years to study the specifics of the other part of the degree. But can anyone distinguish them in terms of interest, job prospects, incomes? thanks.

Umm... Actuarial studies is completely different to accounting. Go to wikipedia or something to look up what they are.

Why do you want to do these degrees if you don't even know what they are? :-/

and a fourth one, which doesn't have a law component:
B Commerce - Actuarial Studies with B Commerce- Accounting
I presume that if i undertake this course, i cannot be a solicitor when i graduate, can anyone confirm?

Obviously. You need an accredited law degree to become a legal practitioner.

and a final question, as my initial goal was for Commerce/Law at Sydney Uni, what do you think would be the best way of transferring there? doing a commerce/law course at Macquarie then applying for a transfer? or starting off with a commerce degree at USyd? thanks again.

Ask Sydney Uni what they think the best way is. You need to initially aim for a degree where you'll get the highest marks (as to increase your chances of transfer).

 

[AsyLum]

I hear actuarial is easier LOL

 

[BoganBoy]

regarding transfer to usyd i suspect you would rather start off doing commerce at usyd than mac.

1. com/law units have lots of common first year units so you can still finish your law in 5 years even with the transfer
2. transfer from mac to usyd almost certainly mean some units wont be recognised by usyd so you need to delay graduation
3. best if you get use to the environment, make some friends etc.
4. even if you do not manage to transfer into law, you are b better off with a com degree from usyd than mac.

bb

 

[melsc]

regarding transfer to usyd i suspect you would rather start off doing commerce at usyd than mac.

2. transfer from mac to usyd almost certainly mean some units wont be recognised by usyd so you need to delay graduation
4. even if you do not manage to transfer into law, you are b better off with a com degree from usyd than mac.

bb

wtf - all law courses are accredited which means that we all learn the same stuff which means they should also transfer fine, it may be one or two that don't but they are usually pretty flexible, unless you can say this happened to you or someone you know? the op would be better to contact the uni they can tell you if they usually grant advanced standing to the other uni.

I also was under the impression that MQ had a pretty good Com degree, esp in actuarial.

In the end as PwarYuex said do the one that will maximise your mark if you want to transfer, look at which of the degrees interests you most and where your talents lie. If you really want to study law, you might enjoy and thus do better in the MQ course rather than being stuck with straight Bcom, also if you don't get into USYD you will still being studying law.

 

[xeuyrawp]

wtf - all law courses are accredited which means that we all learn the same stuff which means they should also transfer fine, it may be one or two that don't but they are usually pretty flexible, unless you can say this happened to you or someone you know? the op would be better to contact the uni they can tell you if they usually grant advanced standing to the other uni.

I also was under the impression that MQ had a pretty good Com degree, esp in actuarial.

In the end as PwarYuex said do the one that will maximise your mark if you want to transfer, look at which of the degrees interests you most and where your talents lie. If you really want to study law, you might enjoy and thus do better in the MQ course rather than being stuck with straight Bcom, also if you don't get into USYD you will still being studying law.

As above...

regarding transfer to usyd i suspect you would rather start off doing commerce at usyd than mac.

1. com/law units have lots of common first year units so you can still finish your law in 5 years even with the transfer

Do you know that for sure? I'm not sure how USyd works, but if it's like most unis, most law subjects (LAWxxx at MQ) will be separated from other subjects like accounting (ACCGxxx), marketing (MKTGxxx), etc. They should check with USyd.

2. transfer from mac to usyd almost certainly mean some units wont be recognised by usyd so you need to delay graduation

This isn't true with regards to law (as said above). As for the commerce side, they should check with USyd.

3. best if you get use to the environment, make some friends etc.

Definitely a compelling argument, although I think this is more relevant if a) you're devoting lots of time to it, or b) moving there as in it's far away. A move from MQ to USyd wouldn't be a big deal.

4. even if you do not manage to transfer into law, you are b better off with a com degree from usyd than mac.

Er, not sure about that.

 

[Monstar]

I got a UAI of 96, so all of these courses are in my range, but I'm extremely confused as to what the difference is between them.

B Commerce - Accounting/B Laws
B Commerce - Actuarial Studies/B Laws
B Commerce/ Laws
I did a bit of research, and I believe the three courses are exactly the same, with a 3 year law degree, then branching out for 2 years to study the specifics of the other part of the degree. But can anyone distinguish them in terms of interest, job prospects, incomes? thanks.

and a final question, as my initial goal was for Commerce/Law at Sydney Uni, what do you think would be the best way of transferring there? doing a commerce/law course at Macquarie then applying for a transfer? or starting off with a commerce degree at USyd? thanks again.

The stupid BCommerce- XXX means the degree is specialising in the area. For example the BCommerce-Accounting as forementioned is for people wanting to pursue a CA/CPA path whilst the Actuararial Studies(acst) is for people wanting to pursue professional recognition by the acturarial professional bodies. A vanilla, "BCommerce" is broad and offers an accounting 'major' but you don't have access to units which will allow you to proceed onto a CA/CPA. acst isn't offered in the broad Bcommerce degree. Hope this helps.

From what i've read and heard, the Bcomm-acst/law is really stressful, be prepared to grind it out. I'm not really sure how relevant a law background is for acst so the combo, imo is rather questionable. However, Law and acst provides 1230102301203 epeen if you're into that kinda thing. As usual Accounting is a safe prospect, offering very good employment opportunities combined with a pretty good salary. The combination with law is useful, especially when branching out into areas of tax law.