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MoonlightSonata said:
Alrite, going along with the Islamic belief, if they are not married or with someone, is there any harm in that situation?
yes there is.
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But suppose that you are not married or with someone, then what is wrong with that?
the whole point is that you shouldn't be looking because it brings on desires and makes ppl do things which lead to them regrettibng later (such as rape,lust, etc)
 

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Sonic said:
the whole point is that you shouldn't be looking because it brings on desires and makes ppl do things which lead to them regrettibng later (such as rape,lust, etc)
how does finding a woman attractive, and asking her on a date, and maybe start dating her afterwards , lead to rape/lust??
 

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My idea of noblility, purity and righteousness is very different from yours.

Let me ask you a couple of question. Do you think a pornstar is righteous, pure or noble? What do you believe to be righteous, noble or pure? I believe that nobility is an absolute rather than a relative concept but I would like to hear your response.

You cannot quantify what is righteous and what isn't. Rather it is quite evident what is righteous and what isn't. I believe that a pornstar is not noble, pure or righteous simply because the pornstar is engaging in sexual intercource with no shame.

We are humans not animals. Religion has been sent down to us to teach that we are different to animals. While animals have instinct and will satiate their desires (ie food and sex) in any way possible, we humans are built in a more dignified and noble manner. Fornication as I have explained earlier has with it many good points yet the bad points outweight the good points.

It is up to us to implement noble acts to be different from animals. By having sexual relations outside of marriage, we are no better than a mere animal who
cannot control its desires.
Firstly - pornstars can be ashamed of what they do. http://www.oneangrygirl.net/pornmyths.html

Secondly - I find it disturbing that you equate porn stars to animals.
 

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Sonic said:
yes there is.


the whole point is that you shouldn't be looking because it brings on desires and makes ppl do things which lead to them regrettibng later (such as rape,lust, etc)
it does bring desires, but thats normal and expected. But it doesnt lead to rape, cos rape is lack of control. Think about the girls that hang around in bikinis dont get raped, its only those hiding wearing scarves, in a way endangering themselves by posing as a valuable target.

a girl that wears a headscarf and a girl that doesnt have an equal possibilty of getting raped.
 

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HotShot said:
it does bring desires, but thats normal and expected. But it doesnt lead to rape, cos rape is lack of control. Think about the girls that hang around in bikinis dont get raped, its only those hiding wearing scarves, in a way endangering themselves by posing as a valuable target.

a girl that wears a headscarf and a girl that doesnt have an equal possibilty of getting raped.
they have an equal possibility? place them together and see which one the raper will choose. i dont know the outcome of this experiment, but i think the other girl (you didnt describe her attire) would be more prone to rape.
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how does finding a woman attractive, and asking her on a date, and maybe start dating her afterwards , lead to rape/lust??
it might not lead to rape, but it can lead to lust, because you found her attractive, which would naturally build up as you got to know her, or it would spiral down, in which case you wouldnt be with her anymore.
 

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veterandoggy said:
it might not lead to rape, but it can lead to lust, because you found her attractive, which would naturally build up as you got to know her, or it would spiral down, in which case you wouldnt be with her anymore.
i see notihng wrong with little lust, if you dont make it go out of control. thats how you meet people and choose the best one for you. Its better then some marriage thats chosen for yuo to a person yuo dont even know.
 

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SashatheMan said:
i see notihng wrong with little lust, if you dont make it go out of control. thats how you meet people and choose the best one for you. Its better then some marriage thats chosen for you to a person you dont even know.
not necessarily
i watched a british documentary about arranged marriages in the u.k..coz they have alot of indians and pakis muslims and hindus and they were discussing the difference between arrange marriage and b/fg/f marriage and they said a higher portion of aranged marriage actually stay together and work out just fine whereas other marriage...western style might i say end up in divorce and they never last ..more so then arranged
so like shut ur fucking face uncle fucker
 

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SashatheMan said:
i see notihng wrong with little lust, if you dont make it go out of control. thats how you meet people and choose the best one for you. Its better then some marriage thats chosen for yuo to a person yuo dont even know.
uhh, that isnt what we do, in case you are implying that. a little attraction helps you find the right partner, and you get married as soon as possible when you are certain that you have found the right person, and then there is no need to worry that your lust might make you fornicate, although that wouldnt matter to you, since you dont find anything wrong with sex before marriage, which is where our conflicts cross as well.
 

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not necessarily
i watched a british documentary about arranged marriages in the u.k..coz they have alot of indians and pakis muslims and hindus and they were discussing the difference between arrange marriage and b/fg/f marriage and they said a higher portion of aranged marriage actually stay together and work out just fine whereas other marriage...western style might i say end up in divorce and they never last ..more so then arranged
The reason why arranged marriages tend to lust longer is because its seen as very disrecpectable to the families to get devorce. Its much harder process to get a devorce within an arranged marriage.

the majroity of marriages that are not arranged, give people the freedom to devorce when that spark in the marriage dissapears. sadly if that happens in an arranged marraige, pepple are just told to keep quit and not try to reverse anything

so like shut ur fucking face uncle fucker
biutch if you cant keep from not swearing at me, then shut the fuck up and dont post at all
 

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veterandoggy said:
uhh, that isnt what we do, in case you are implying that. a little attraction helps you find the right partner, and you get married as soon as possible when you are certain that you have found the right person, and then there is no need to worry that your lust might make you fornicate, although that wouldnt matter to you, since you dont find anything wrong with sex before marriage, which is where our conflicts cross as well.
So how can yuo say that polygamy is not about lust? 4 wives and loving them all? seems impossible. lust very likely
 

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SashatheMan said:
So how can yuo say that polygamy is not about lust? 4 wives and loving them all? seems impossible. lust very likely
4 wives is not about lusting over 4 different women..often people are mistaken thinking its about sex and desires etc..no not at all...
its about being a carer and provider for the women ...because the ratio of men to women is like...4-1 or something ..seriously..and whos going to marry and care for the other 3 women...?
 

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SashatheMan said:
So how can yuo say that polygamy is not about lust? 4 wives and loving them all? seems impossible. lust very likely
hence not many polygamous marriages sasha

affection is not able to be spread equally. it is obvious that you will like one more than the other, even if it was slight. besides, you cant get married again without informing your wife, in which case she has full right for a divorce.

oh no, something must be wrong here. women dont have rights in islam, so i must be mistaken.
 

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soha said:
4 wives is not about lusting over 4 different women..often people are mistaken thinking its about sex and desires etc..no not at all...
its about being a carer and provider for the women ...because the ratio of men to women is like...4-1 or something ..seriously..and whos going to marry and care for the other 3 women...?
there aremore women in the world then men but the ratio is closer to 1:1 Dotn give me some bullshit statistic that the ratio of women to men is 4:1.

so you are basicly saying marriage is not about love for a person, or the act of people being more closer. its abount providing food and shelter to women
 
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veterandoggy said:
hence not many polygamous marriages sasha

affection is not able to be spread equally. it is obvious that you will like one more than the other, even if it was slight. besides, you cant get married again without informing your wife, in which case she has full right for a divorce.

oh no, something must be wrong here. women dont have rights in islam, so i must be mistaken.
i know that its impossible to have equal feeling towards all four people. But those feeligns are not love , they are lust. in a multi-wife marriage, the man lusts more for one woman that the other. thats it
 

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soha said:
4 wives is not about lusting over 4 different women..often people are mistaken thinking its about sex and desires etc..no not at all...
its about being a carer and provider for the women ...because the ratio of men to women is like...4-1 or something ..seriously..and whos going to marry and care for the other 3 women...?
wtf, the ratio of men to women is close to 1:1 throughout the world.
 

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withoutaface said:
wtf, the ratio of men to women is close to 1:1 throughout the world.
umm no..there has always been an overwhelming amount of more women to men in the world since day one
i dont give a flying fuck if you disagree...its what has been presented to me as true
 

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withoutaface said:
wtf, the ratio of men to women is close to 1:1 throughout the world.
she is probably thinking we still live in the time when burying daughters alive was common.
 

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