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gerhard said:
devine isnt as bad as akerman or albreichstein. just more people seem to read herald than tele or australian here.

both akerman and albreich seem to write an article a week about how terrible the labour party are and how australia loves howard and how good he is. there is no critical analysis, no thoughts of why this is so, how labour could improve etc. Only attacks on 'inner city latte drinkers' or something. It amazes me how they can write an entire article that says nothing every sinlge week and no one notices.
1. Akerman

2. Devine

3. Albreich

At least Devine has one hit every 10 weeks or so and Albreich isn't as mornic as Akerman can be. The man is actually a nutcase. As someone said once on the insiders to Akerman *If John Howard murdered cats you would tell us that cats die all the time and that therefore John Howard is a hero for murdering the said cats*
 

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Lets not get sidetracked here. Unlike the Telegraph, The Herald is at least a somewhat respectible mainstream news source and thus comparisons between Akerman and Devine arent really warranted. The papers serve different purposes and audiences.
 

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Whats is the point of democracy when it only leads to a more volatile form of authoritarian theocracy?
 

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voting... Something that they wouldn't be doing if the US hadn't gone in there.
It makes no difference. Saddam was a sellout US puppert. The "democracy" in Iraq is a puppert to the US. The current parties in the Iraq government want be able to make the US withdraw completly. (miltary and economic imperialism)

Whats is the point of democracy when it only leads to a more volatile form of authoritarian theocracy?
You shouldn't underestimate secularism in Iraq.
 

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i came to bitch about miranda devine, but instead i get HAMAS controversy.
damn you BoS!
 
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Bill Hicks said:
Wow. And you call other people retarded...

Democracy is the BEST solution. What do you propose? Socialism?

Whilst appropriate for some governmental services, socialism would probably lead to some far darker paths.
No form of government which has produced near civil war, and which will get worse over time can be called a solution. Democracy isn't the be all and end all of political systems, surprisingly enough there are places where it just doesn't work
 

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Re: Miranda Devine is a dirty minging cunt-face.

The anti-war protesters who picketed Rice might try having more faith in the Iraqis and the brave soldiers like my friend who are supporting them.
Shouldn't it either be... like my friends who ARE supporting them OR like my friend whom is supporting them?
 
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Captain Gh3y said:
Democracy produced an actual civil war in the USA, do you think they should have abandoned it?
I think thats a bit of a simplication of matters, you can't seriously consider 'democracy' the cause of the American Civil War
 

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Re: Miranda Devine is a dirty minging cunt-face.

Not-That-Bright said:
Shouldn't it either be... like my friends who ARE supporting them OR like my friend whom is supporting them?
The bigger mistake is somehow coming to the conclusion that "anti-war protesters" have less faith in the Iraqi's than the people who went there to tell them that their form of government and religious beliefs are outdated and need changing by force.
 
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Re: Miranda Devine is a dirty minging cunt-face.

Meh. I like Piers Ackermen LESS than I like Miranda Devine. And i HATE Miranda Devine.
 
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In todays article Devine criticises people after the QLD hurricance for complaining about having their houses dstroyed.

Its not their fault of the media attempts to over dramatise.
 

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Silver Persian said:
In todays article Devine criticises people after the QLD hurricance for complaining about having their houses dstroyed.

Its not their fault of the media attempts to over dramatise.
I read that. I can't believe she was even allowed to publish that, how can it be called journalism? The whole article was "I am geting annoyed with whinging people from Northern Qld".

Basically with Miranda Devine it is the case of giving some random bitch a platform to say what ever is on her mind, no matter what her fore knowledge on the subject is.
 
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I'm not a violent person, but I'd love to test out a bullbar on Miranda Devine.

And then I'd like to test out somebody elses.

And then we'll see how reverse works. And whether the bandbrake works.

And then we'll see who whinges.
 

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For the most part I agree with her article (found here).

I was struck by only one thing when I saw the news footage - and it wasnt the devastation. It was the attitude of locals, in one report I saw overt demands for piles of money to fix everything made on two seperate ocassions directly to the PM by locals.

Northern queensland is an area that will be hit by cyclones - no ifs or buts about it. We've known this for a long time, larry is merely the last in a long line of cyclones to hit the region.

On this basis I think it is reasonable for residents to expect cyclones and take precautions - for instance insurance against the losses that may eventuate would be a good start.

This to me reflects the 'hand-out' culture of the Bush (and heres the bit that will send Katie over the edge). It seems that we no longer expect rural australia to plan for the future.

Just as they seem shocked that there has been a cyclone they seem similarily shocked that there is a drought. Newsflash: These things happen in the areas that you choose to live in - always have and always will. Because of this it should be your responsibility to plan for such occurenses not ours to bail you out every single time.

Why exactly is it our problem that you have not prepared for a drought? As far as I'm concerned we should not be giving hand-outs to those that have failed to prepare, they should go to the wall if the drought drags them there.

By continuing to provide hand-outs we support those who continue to engage in inefficient farming practises. Basically put they will never learn to swim if we always build a bridge.

And as a pre-emptive to the counter-arguments I am about to see:

Argument one: What will you eat if we all go bust you jackass! The top 20% of farms produce 80% of what we eat - it is not these 20% that we are supporting, they are 'good farmers'. And an advantage of poorly prepared ones going to the wall is that these good farmers will be able to expand and good farming will become more prevalent. Letting farmers fend for themselves will ensure that the strong survive and prosper the result being in the long run higher output not lower.

Argument two: Romantic notions of bush miscellaneous Try these in the Telegraph, they dont fly here, maybe I'm a heartless bastard or maybe I'm just rational.

Argument three: we did plan Obviously not well enough - the results speak for themselves.

Note: An interesting lecture was presented on this topic by an academic from ADFA to environmental students at the ANU - I have lifted some concepts.
 
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According to other reports, I was under the impression that it is/was only a handful demanding the world from the pollies - most people in the area seem to accept that the situation isn't that bad and that it will take time, and quite a bit of their own money, to rebuild, and this is assuming that most do choose to rebuild rather than move on.
 

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politik said:
I love the Herald but in all seriousness it's retarded shock-journalists like her who should be working on Today Tonight - not writing for an excellent publication.
It's just a broadsheet, politik.
 

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