Maths extionsion 2 in year 12 (2 Viewers)

[viraj30]

hey guys, im in year 11 and doing mths ext 1..i dont study for it but manage to pass it without studying..I want to do extension 2 next year and study hard for it..can the school prevent me doing it or is it illegal? thnx

 

[interesting]

they can't stop you

 

[Omnipotence]

I don't understand the notion of 'I don't study and manage to pass' non-sense. Why didn't you study? Maybe this question wouldn't be posed in the first play.
That being said the school is legally unable to inhibit you from undertaking a course, unless you attend a stringent private school that would kick you out.

 

[viraj30]

I don't understand the notion of 'I don't study and manage to pass' non-sense. Why didn't you study? Maybe this question wouldn't be posed in the first play.
That being said the school is legally unable to inhibit you from undertaking a course, unless you attend a stringent private school that would kick you out.

thats so true..im gonna start studying from now!

 

[Alkanes]

Lazy people don't deserve the good stuff.

 

[LightXT]

Lazy people don't deserve the good stuff.

120 do it in my year. You could say half of them don't deserve to (cos they're lazy and won't get E4s) To OP - unless you go private or selective, your school can't stop you doing 4U.

 

[Weasel406]

hey guys, im in year 11 and doing mths ext 1..i dont study for it but manage to pass it without studying..I want to do extension 2 next year and study hard for it..can the school prevent me doing it or is it illegal? thnx

Start studying if you intend on doing well in extension 2.

 

[viraj30]

Start studying if you intend on doing well in extension 2.

i will but that does not answer my question

 

[funnytomato]

i will but that does not answer my question

i don't think they should, esp if you're genuinely interested in it and are starting to put in the effort

 

[13abie]

I go to a school ranked 5-7. In year 11, they kicked the bottem 30 of us out of ext1 maths.
So yes they can stop you doing 4u, they can even stop you doing 3u. (im living proof)

 

[viraj30]

I go to a school ranked 5-7. In year 11, they kicked the bottem 30 of us out of ext1 maths.
So yes they can stop you doing 4u, they can even stop you doing 3u. (im living proof)

my school doesnt even come in top 200 lol..and there are not so many 3u students..would they still kick me out??

 

[RivalryofTroll]

My advice is to just take it and see if you are capable of doing it!
If you are somewhat capable, it'll contribute ALOT to your ATAR as it's basically the easiest way to get above 99 [or your desired ATAR] ATAR (as long as you do well in your other subs) due to the benefits of the extremely high scaling that MX2 offers/provides...
Also, what are you ranked in 3U? I'd say do Extension 2 if you rank about top 10 - 15/20 in 3U...

 

[LoveHateSchool]

^He goes to a 200+ school, doubt there is more than 10 people doing MX1.

Op, do it if you want to do it.

 

[cem]

Regardless of what type of school you go to the school can't stop you doing your chosen level or subject unless they have no vacancies in the subject e.g. for Ext 2 Maths they can set a maximum of say 10 students in the class and only run one class. If you aren't in the top 10 who want to do it then they can say that you can't do it as there isn't room for you in the class. That applies to all courses. Even Independent and Catholic schools are bound by BOS rules.

 

[asianese]

I go to a school ranked 5-7. In year 11, they kicked the bottem 30 of us out of ext1 maths.
So yes they can stop you doing 4u, they can even stop you doing 3u. (im living proof)

Yeah same situation...they're folding one whole Ext1 class from the 4 we have now (24 in each). Makes sense, too many...and I think they have a huge list for the NON-RECOMMENDED for ext2 and continuation of ext1.

 

[JennaJameson]

I don't understand the notion of 'I don't study and manage to pass' non-sense. Why didn't you study?

why study if u can pass without it? drink beer and get bitches instead

Lazy people don't deserve the good stuff.

agreed, 4u should only be for azns who study 24/7 or else will be starved of rice

Start studying if you intend on doing well in extension 2.

not everyone is dumb

 

[Shadowdude]

Regardless of what type of school you go to the school can't stop you doing your chosen level or subject unless they have no vacancies in the subject e.g. for Ext 2 Maths they can set a maximum of say 10 students in the class and only run one class. If you aren't in the top 10 who want to do it then they can say that you can't do it as there isn't room for you in the class. That applies to all courses. Even Independent and Catholic schools are bound by BOS rules.

You can counter-argue what negligible effect an 11th person will have on the class. One extra test to mark, one extra seat... not much, really.

 

[cem]

You can counter-argue what negligible effect an 11th person will have on the class. One extra test to mark, one extra seat... not much, really.

You can but as the union and the government set the limits you won't win. It is a working condition of class sizes that has been fought for over the last 100+ years and teachers are determined not to have these hard-won conditions rolled back.

Effectively what would be asking is for the teacher is to give less attention to those who are in the class becuase that is what would have to happen. Teachers have other classes besides Year 12 and, from watching the Extension 2 teachers at my school mark that work it isn't as simply as '1 extra question' but hours of extra work for one extra student. The extension 2 eacher at my school had 4 exams to mark during the trials and it took him as long to mark those four papers with corrections as it did the general teacher to mark the 26 papers he had to do - an extra student would have added an extra hour and a half to the marking of that trial paper - which other class would lose out? a year 7 maybe or would he have had to be less thorough in the marking of the extension papers.

It isn't as simple as kids would like it to be - there are rules in place about class sizes etc and they aren't just regulations but some are actually part of the legislation regarding teachers working conditions. It isn't often what we would like to do either but often our hands are tied - we might like to say sure I will take 11 but, as one deputy said to me a couple of years ago, does that mean next year you will be prepared to take two extra periods a week, or do we ask everyone to work more than the award says you are to work?

You are looking at things from the point of view of a student and I understand that while I am trying to show you that there is also another side - that of the teachers and that they themselves have to answer to higher authorities and also to their colleagues who might be pressured into doing more - and then governments argue well class sizes can be larger etc.

 

[Omnipotence]

why study if u can pass without it? drink beer and get bitches instead

Sorry, 3U isn't hard. So to pass is not an achievement (51%).