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based off of a couple different wikipedia articles:
The Mujahideen in Afghanistan were fighting the Russians trying to invade the country. The end of the Cold War led to the American-backed Mujahideen winning as Russia pulled back. However, the Mujahideen were unsuccessful at creating a gov't, and the Taliban, usurped them and took over the country in 1996... in many ways militarily, but i'm not going to say it was purely that.
So....removing the Taliban wasn't removing the group America was helping. In fact, i'm finding stuff saying that the U.S., and most of the rest of the world, and the U.N., continued to consider the president taht was forced out of the capital as the head of the country, even though he had no influence or power at that point.
 
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Captain Gh3y said:
I'll try :)

You're all looking at this through a heavily biased Western viewpoint. Afghanistan is a sovereign nation (as far as I know) and they have the right to enforce the laws that they established there according to their culture and tradition.

How would you feel if there was a country, maybe the Netherlands or something where Child Porn was actively encouraged and enjoyed by the community, and they called us barbaric for banning it. It's no different. To the average Afghani (as far as I know), not being Muslim is as immoral, if not more immoral, than say murder or rape to the mind of a Westener.

Islam on the whole is a tolerant and peaceful religion that preaches peace and tolerance. Do not judge the Afghanis with your Western morals.
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Banning the creation of child porn has a valid grounding in protecting children from exploitation, whether it's moral or not shouldn't come into it at all.
 
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Riewe said:
"the religion of Islam is one of tolerance"

Tolerant of what?
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Itself.

(and then, only when the Shi'ites and Sunnis aren't having a beef with each other!)

Judging by the persistent bad press that Islam has been getting; i believe it is not unreasonable to come to the following conclusions:

If Islam = peace, then;

* Sharks are perfectly harmless
* Trees eat lasagna
* Poison is good for you
* Fossil fuels will never run out
* Bill Gates will give every person in the world $1m tomorrow

etc, etc. So unless actions start expressing the unlikely notion that Islam = peace, then the religion, sorry to say, is no good to any of us. Of course, that applies to all religions -- actions speak louder than words. I sympathise for muslims who feel they are being wrongly represented - yes, there are probably good muslims out there, but until they start showing it more evidently, no sane person will believe them.
 
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davin said:
sam04u, thats not the law in afghanistan. the law as i've read it described for this is that you are allowed freedom of religion, and only muslims are subject to islamic law.
all this guy did was convert from islam to christianity. they've said that he'll not get punished if he says he's not really a christian, but he's refused to do so. in effect, isn't being of another religion saying you believe a given religion is wrong?
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Obviously more then muslims are subject to Islamic law for he is no longer muslim. It isn't freedom of religion if one cannot change and denounce religions.

Can one of the fanatics tell me if you can be born into Islam, such as with Catholicism (ie you are considered a member initially without your choice), or is it more a Quaker style one can only choose it when they feel ready? If not it would be quite unfair to punish teenagers and the like who never chose to practice Islam but whose parents do practice.
 
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chookyn said:
Itself.

(and then, only when the Shi'ites and Sunnis aren't having a beef with each other!)

Judging by the persistent bad press that Islam has been getting; i believe it is not unreasonable to come to the following conclusions:

If Islam = peace, then;

* Sharks are perfectly harmless
* Trees eat lasagna
* Poison is good for you
* Fossil fuels will never run out
* Bill Gates will give every person in the world $1m tomorrow

etc, etc. So unless actions start expressing the unlikely notion that Islam = peace, then the religion, sorry to say, is no good to any of us. Of course, that applies to all religions -- actions speak louder than words. I sympathise for muslims who feel they are being wrongly represented - yes, there are probably good muslims out there, but until they start showing it more evidently, no sane person will believe them.
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Arnt religions a wonderful thing ay avondale girl? People dying for their religions all around the world, killing other people around the world because of their religion. To protect their way of life sanctioned by their religion.

I think it is firmly established that islam isnt the most enlightened of the religions or at least one of the religions most adapted to a modern political economy and liberal democracy. It's hard to suggest that the results of christianity are all positive. Let alone all other forms of religion that suffer from one and only god disease. The only difference between a christian state and a islamic state is that there aint any fundemtalist christian states. I can assure you that a fundementalist christian state probably would be too wonferdul either, it's the reason why we don't have one.
 
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