yeah, sorry sorry.54247 said:S1MO you spent so much time trying to be as objective as possible and yes youve had some great input... AND now youve just spoilt it all.
Youve basically.. indirectly alienated or being pesimistic of all muslims... Have you been hanging around Aryan
or is it that you cant hack that your family background just happen to be in a majority muslim country. I dont want to go off on a tangent here but i think thats why you continuously try to side away a make your self a different entity from just being say a muslim lebanese or christian (or egyptian). This overall problem isnt a religous problem rather more of a cultural...stop attemting to avoid it!
Then i really didn't mean that. I was talking about lebanese and "other wogs". It wasn't my intention to include muslim vs christian. So sorry if i've offended you.Jordan.J said:Dont take it too literally, but that is your tone
If you mean what I think you mean.. you've hit the nail on the head with that post.sladehk said:black sheep of a herd
Your making false allegations here. Prove to me that they will be rapists and all the rest of the shit you have there. Im not denying that we dont have a problem here and yes i think these guys need to be delt with immiediately... but youve simply generalised all of them and you have this premtive thought of them being a menace. This is essentially what these guys stupid drive is... to be lawless fools. Its like i wont say that the victorian blokes who raped, spat on that poor girl will in the future be gang rapists and that their role mode is skaf. Why? because there young, currently stupid and dont have any guidance and hopefully if people want to help in rehabilitating these losties then they are willing to stop victimsing them because as i said earier... their victimisation is their drive...These people are criminals, gang rapist in the making process. You will soon hear these people involved in gang rape, mugging, robbery,thuggery, riot, murder unless you take this as a serious issue and take necessary steps. Just look at their role model, gang rapist Bilal Skaf (probably considered an islamic martyr by now).
From SMHA YOUTUBE video that glorifies the gang rapist Bilal Skaf featured several former Granville Boys High pupils, says a current student at the school.
The student, who asked not to be named, said he watched the video in November last year and recognised some of the boys.
"Maybe they were year 9 or 10 when it was shot. I know nearly all of them have gone, most of them dropped out in year 10," he said, adding that he had heard about the video from other students.
The three-minute video lebothugs is backed by a rap song and includes an image of Skaf with a rifle on his lap, footage of a Cronulla riot revenge attack, a photo montage of a group referred to as the "Soldiers of Granville Boys", and a map of Australia in the colours of the Lebanese flag with the words "under new management". Another scene shows a school shirt with a knife on it. The student called the video "stupid".
"The image created has affected our reputation at Granville Boys. I just want to say we have a great principal, she is doing a fantastic job and I hope we can put this behind us," he said.
The student said he was surprised the video had caused such a stir. "I went to 'Cronulla riots' on YouTube and there's all these videos of Anglos saying 'We are proud of what we did'. So there's already other race hate videos out there. Why are they only targeting one [community]?"
The Prime Minister, John Howard, told the Nine Network yesterday: "It's a reminder that there is undoubtedly within a section, a small section, of the Lebanese Muslim community a group of people who are antagonistic to the values and the way of life in this country."
A YouTube user yesterday removed from the website several controversial videos, including lebothugs, and another showing a man being bashed by a gang.
The Premier, Morris Iemma, said police and the Education Department would investigate whether lebothugs included images of any current students and whether it was made by students.
The video was uploaded last November by YouTube member daboyz123, whose profile says he is Amer, aged 25.
It has been watched more than 8000 times, "favourited" 30 times and been commented on 168 times.
The Police Minister, John Watkins, said police would consider charging anyone involved in making the video.
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If anyone have Muslim/arab phobia it would be because of what muslims/arab did to other communities. Seeing how your viciously defended any wrong doings by members of your community shows why incidents like this happen because it is not considered serious in your muslim community standard, it is just a childish issue to you.54247 said:Well this shows your ignorance. If you have been educated and dont have this arab/muslim/phobia (which you do through pakistani muslims), youde not be stupid enough to paint all arabs/muslims/lebs/egyptians etc etc etc etc as being that moron of a clan who think their heroes. But it seems somethoing so childich and idiotic is enough to make you think that all arabs/muslims/lebs/egyptians are the same and thus all their years of hard work are gone!!!
I did not alleged anything. Their actions shows they are in the process of becoming a full blown rapist (through their glorifying of a rapist in their video , saying girls ask to be raped and such). Rape is not probably considered serious issue either in your community. Its just a childish issue is n't it?Your making false allegations here. Prove to me that they will be rapists and all the rest of the shit you have there. Im not denying that we dont have a problem here and yes i think these guys need to be delt with immiediately... but youve simply generalised all of them and you have this premtive thought of them being a menace. This is essentially what these guys stupid drive is... to be lawless fools.
Stop putting themselves as victim, they are not victim, they are perpetrator of this hatefilled video, they are the creator and they have their picture in it. No one put them in their position, except themsevles, it not my fault nor any other citizens that they are considered outcast in western society, it is their fault. As long as you consider it as just a childish issue, this kind of people will continue to plague lebanese/muslim society in australia.hopefully if people want to help in rehabilitating these losties then they are willing to stop victimsing them because as i said earier... their victimisation is their drive.
No, their lyrics according to the newspaper said "we don't rape those aussie chicks, they ask for it". Your words echo that of your mufti. The rapist they idolised in their video did not only organised three of the attack , the viciousness of the attack were taken in to considerstions when judgements were made. He was never remorseful, and never apologised. He deserve what he got. If you don't believe in the justice system of Australia, why not live somewhere where you believe you'll get justice, where you can bribe your judge and juror and where you can use your muftis influence to secure release.The reason they probably have skaf on is becaue of the injustice he had within our court system...They believe that racism played a big part because an anglo murderer may serve a 25 yr jail sentence for murder but a lebanese bloke spends 55 for rape?
Unless you take this as a serious issue that needs to be addressed how are you going to convince them that they need rehabilitation while telling them this is just a childish issue?Nevertheless, all are fools and all need guidance... and statistics show that rehabilitation is better than incarceration.
cant help but think if this is you aryanIndian Princess said:If anyone have Muslim/arab phobia it would be because of what muslims/arab did to other communities. Seeing how your viciously defended any wrong doings by members of your community shows why incidents like this happen because it is not considered serious in your muslim community standard, it is just a childish issue to you.
I did not alleged anything. Their actions shows they are in the process of becoming a full blown rapist (through their glorifying of a rapist in their video , saying girls ask to be raped and such). Rape is not probably considered serious issue either in your community. Its just a childish issue is n't it?
Stop putting themselves as victim, they are not victim, they are perpetrator of this hatefilled video, they are the creator and they have their picture in it. No one put them in their position, except themsevles, it not my fault nor any other citizens that they are considered outcast in western society, it is their fault. As long as you consider it as just a childish issue, this kind of people will continue to plague lebanese/muslim society in australia.
No, their lyrics according to the newspaper said "we don't rape those aussie chicks, they ask for it". Your words echo that of your mufti. The rapist they idolised in their video did not only organised three of the attack , the viciousness of the attack were taken in to considerstions when judgements were made. He was never remorseful, and never apologised. He deserve what he got. If you don't believe in the justice system of Australia, why not live somewhere where you believe you'll get justice, where you can bribe your judge and juror and where you can use your muftis influence to secure release.
Unless you take this as a serious issue that needs to be addressed how are you going to convince them that they need rehabilitation while telling them this is just a childish issue?