Law courses: is there really a difference? (1 Viewer)

[snakeoils]

i don't wanna start some kinda all out slanging match here, but i was wondering, does it really matter which of the main unis you study law at?

is there are remarkable difference between USYD or UNSW? and where does UTS fit into things?

 

[googy_1985]

My dads friend went to USyd years ago - and done law.. He was telling me USyd had the most snob value, and as Asq said has a big alumni base etc... He found it easy to get a job; and is now really high up earning 6 figure sums!!!!

 

[snakeoils]

thanks asq... yeah, its usyd im thinking of... i just wanted to make sure it wasn't too dodgy

 

[Charlie]

how does maq fit into the heirachy?

 

[Dingo]

Law at UWS rules.

peace^^

 

[guesswho]

Originally posted by Asquithian


UTS is quite good too...has a name for being very practical in its teaching...journo/law has a good name there...good location of campus ...

UTS grads are highly regarded too...

the course pattern at unsw and usyd are almost identical

can u please elaborate on what u meant as UTS being more practical in its teaching?

Also what are the main types of assessments for law (esp at UTS)
thanx

 

[Dingo]

it means they give you work experience, and they teach you the stuff that industry requires, and not some ancient bullshit which is burried in chapter 100 in the textbook.

peace^^

 

[guesswho]

Originally posted by Asquithian


uts has a rep for being practical because at the end of your degree they give u your practice certificate...


whereas u dont from any other law school


ie when u finish your law degree you have to go to college of law...to get that practicing thingy [/B]

so .. u r not saying that UTS does a lot of "practical work" during lessons.. lectures etc,,,

 

[Suvat]

do you 'do more law' in unis other than uts since uts devotes 1/2 a year to practical legal training while the other unis spend the entire 5 years doing the law course?

 

[Lainee]

Originally posted by Asquithian
maq is considered one of the worse law schools in NSW...

its been around for yonks and in terms of rep is equal to the gong and newcastle and thyey have only been roun for 5 to 10 years

So many conflicting opinions... What to do, what to do... *wrings hands*

 

[ND]

Originally posted by Lainee
So many conflicting opinions... What to do, what to do... *wrings hands*

Simple: if you wanna do law, don't do it at macq.

 

[Lainee]

The problem is, I want to do Actuarial studies and Law. It kinda pulls me in two different directions, really.

 

[ND]

Hahah that's the same situation as i'm in now. I was thinking about doing combined law/actuarials, but firstly, as you know, macq is the place to be for actuarials and usyd/unsw for law. Also, law/actuarials doesn't provide any real extra career opportunities, you're better off spending those extra years making money+gaining extra qualifications (like part III for actuarials, or masters for law). Anyway you've got a whole year to decide, i'm sure you'll work it out. (i on the other hand have 4 days heh nah i'm pretty sure i'll be doing actuarials)

 

[Lainee]

Yes I have one year, but that means a couple more hundred sleepless nights than you. I can't see myself as a practicing lawyer, but considering the acturial dropout rate is so high I'm just not game enough to do it solely without any kind of backup (who am I to say I'll definately not be part of the what? 80% first yr dropouts!). I've been under the impression that law is a good companion to almost anything, particularly if you're seeing management posibilities in the horizon?

So you're going... Macq for actuarials?

 

[Lainee]

Originally posted by Asquithian
act/ law is a sorta funny combo

I know, I just know I want to do law. And I've always liked the probability slash statistical side of maths. So... actuarial/law was what fit that criteria. I just wished my parents sat me down and *told* me what they want me to do, I feel like I'm floating aimlessly from one idea to the next.

EDIT: Well maybe not aimlessly, like most I'm aiming to do something that'll give me the maximum benefit in all fields (enjoyment, future career prospects, prestige, money, education). But all these are so dependant on me, and what I feel about things. I'm so worried I'll take one wrong step and screw up all my chances.

 

[Lainee]

I'm not really sure about that though I probably haven't thought it thru properly yet, but somehow mention the word 'Accounting' and my brain goes 'nah ah'.

 

[ND]

Originally posted by Lainee
Yes I have one year, but that means a couple more hundred sleepless nights than you. I can't see myself as a practicing lawyer, but considering the acturial dropout rate is so high I'm just not game enough to do it solely without any kind of backup (who am I to say I'll definately not be part of the what? 80% first yr dropouts!). I've been under the impression that law is a good companion to almost anything, particularly if you're seeing management posibilities in the horizon?

The dropout rate isn't high after 1st year, i've heard that 2nd year is the killer. But you have to remember that if you're doing something else unrelated (like law), the probability of you dropping out is higher. I mean, appl fin is a breeze after acst, and acst maths is easy after specialist maths courses, so i think it's not only more practical career wise to combine with appl fin or maths but also easier.

Also, remember that all the dropouts aren't because of the difficulty of the course, but also because some people just don't like it.

So you're going... Macq for actuarials?

I think so. (it's funny, at the end of the week i always seem to want to do actuarials, but at the beginning i want to do law, i think it has something to do with Law & Order on monday )

 

[ND]

Originally posted by Lainee
I'm not really sure about that though I probably haven't thought it thru properly yet, but somehow mention the word 'Accounting' and my brain goes 'nah ah'.

Heheh, just remember, no accounting after 1st year.

edit: in actuarials that is.

 

[Lainee]

Originally posted by ND
But you have to remember that if you're doing something else unrelated (like law), the probability of you dropping out is higher.

Hmm, I've thought about that but I arrived at a different conclusion to you. I thought that if I had a few hours of law subjects mixed up in there it would give me some 'breathing space' from all the maths maths maths instead of going from one maths lecture to a harder maths lecture and then looking fwd to more maths the next day.

Hmm, there was something else about Com/Law that turned me off too... oh yeah THE 99.6 CUTOFF (USyd). For some reason, 99.1 for Act/Law @ Macq doesn't look so hard when I look at it in that light.

Heheh, I should probably stop taking over other ppl's threads to talk about my problems and actually start something new but... nyah, too much effort.

 

[ND]

Originally posted by Lainee
Hmm, I've thought about that but I arrived at a different conclusion to you. I thought that if I had a few hours of law subjects mixed up in there it would give me some 'breathing space' from all the maths maths maths instead of going from one maths lecture to a harder maths lecture and then looking fwd to more maths the next day.

Yeh you have a point there. But that kills one of the best aspects about actuarial studies: getting through uni without having to write an essay.

Hmm, there was something else about Com/Law that turned me off too... oh yeah THE 99.6 CUTOFF (USyd). For some reason, 99.1 for Act/Law @ Macq doesn't look so hard when I look at it in that light.

But the 99.1 was this year, it'll jump for sure next year, and by the time it's your turn, who knows how high it'll be.

edit: wait, we're in 2004, i forgot. Replace "this year" with "last year", and "next year" with "this year".