sam04u said:
Don't make me laugh. Have you seen the population which has been squeezed into Gaza, which is Israel's concentration camp? It has the highest population density on the planet. Israel will find a way to manage to "squeeze back into" it's legal borders. Why do the Palestinians always have to be burdoned with the problems of the Jews? They're living in inconceivably high population densities, sometimes in refugee camps, sometimes 6-10 a room, and you're comparing that to what Israel, a nation with never-ending wealth might have to deal with?
Seriously, you're on the verge of insanity in making that ridiculous argument.
Wow I go away for a week an I come back to an extra 13 pages..of crap
Yes sam, those Zionists pigs were humiliated in europe..so as revenge they drew out of a hat and chose, randomly of course, the land of, what was known as, Palestine and decided to inflict the same pain as they endured onto these people. so they shoved them into gaza and the west bank, after a few wars, and pointed and laughed as they created one massive concentration camp.
cmon man..
israel has withdrawn from the gaza strip. it went into havoc after that...the greenhouses left for palestinian farmers - burnt, the israelis homes that could have been used for anything - burnt, synagogues - burnt, cemetries - burnt..like absolute savages!
i'm sure israel can squeeze into its original borders..logistically. but from a survival perspective you cannot honestly tell me that if we went back to those borders the palestinians or other arab armies would accept it and let the two states live side by side. get off your fucking high horse!
even if we went back to the 67 borders more will be asked for and fought for (or by some's standards 'resisted for') nothing will ever be enough until 'all the jews are driven into the sea'
when ehud barak was prime minister and dealing with arafat in negotiations he offered him 97% of what he wanted...of course he didnt take it...g-d forbid they give us most of what we want?!
israel, a nation with never ending wealth? 1 in 3 people live below the poverty line. not really an abundance of wealth im afraid
i spent 5.5 months volunteering and touring israel and the west bank. trust me ive seen the suffering of this war on both sides. the conditions that the palestinians live in is beyond fathomable for most of us living in our first world country.
unfortunately the government, whether democratically elected or not have a) been proven to be harming their own to fuel hatred among the ignorant masses as well create great propaganda for the rest of the world and blaming the israelis..like the recent fuel crisis where it was exposed that hamas was in fact ordering the firing of kassams onto sderot and neighbouring areas from the gas and electrical plants in gaza. israeli retaliation was puting workers in a dangeours position so they boycotted working. thus a electrical crisis. no ones denying that israel cut power..they left enough for the population to survive but nothing more. (as a way of retaliatiang for the thousands of rockets bombarded on its southern towns..would you rather a massive airstrike?) it was hamas who it was revealed took the little power gaza had away from its people. the world news reported israeli power cuts for weeks until the exposition, a small apology was given and the matter never mentioned again. not "how could they do it to their own people"blah blah blah. nothing
b) the funds that they do get from the world is hoarded or misused for weapons, brain washing propaganda TV shows, books and holiday camps
both sides are suffering from this. no one is arguing the humanitarian crisis is equal, its far worse in the palestinian territories..but stop pointing fingers one way when you havent seen it with your own eyes or arent prepared to accept that maybe its not what some anti israel website told you
