Israel attacks Lebanon (8 Viewers)

[jenzipoo]

Jenzipoo + deegee + R.G = are u like the same chic or somethin, or friends go on bos at the same time and support each other - sad...

anyway.

i think its q uite clear that israel has made the wrong move regarding the kidnapping of two soldiers. BOth of whom were mysteriously wandering on the bother of lebanon prob going to bomb someone..

both soldiers most likey are dead by now, - it has cost lebanon their country and many many of their citizens.

it is quite clear that israel has violated humanitarian laws, laws regarding the geneva convention and have also not been 'democratic' - at the world level.

i dont think hezbollah or any terrorist can be destroyed this way, this is exactly wat they wanted and israel gave it to them. Terrorist organizations dont care about anything where as a democratic government such as Israel you would expect to have higher standards. but to me they appear as though they are just as bad, and i can justify calling them a terrorist organization. they are no different from other terrotist networks. they dont value human life!. that is why they target children and the general lebanese population.

the effect of the israeli invasion has led to a growth in support of hezbollah as you would expect considering the way IDF has blown lebanon to pieces. A lebananese person is not going to support ISrael for blowing up their country. they will support the hezbollah for trying to fend them off.

israel has one of the best para-military in the world, and yet they claim to have accidents - how many accidents can you have especially if you make the same twice or thrice?

hmmm because we support israel it is assumed we conspire together and are friends - sad

o yes they were on the border....well actually on israel's side - protecting israel on its borders because we sure as hell know that those on its borders arent the kind of neighbours you owuld like..o and yess they were gonna bomb so the good old hezbollah people were just defeding and protecting the land they love so much...cut the crap

you say the two soldiers (who are NOT dead...or else i tell u hezbollah is truly fucked) caused what happening now?? ure delusional!! hezbollah have caused this upon their own people (who they love so much) they have developed a state within a state running a terrorist organisation within a once sovereign state which ching ching u got it DENIES ISRAEL RIGHT TO EXIST

please justoify how yopu would call a country a terrorist organisation?
its you opinion against mine...and i strongly strognly strongly do not agree that israel targets civilians especially children!! even though the country has no official religion, trhe idf's protocals and principles are governed by Judaic principles...which as far as i know highly values life (where any law except three can be broken to save a life!!!)

yes hezbollah's support has grown...bt whta is support when theyre disarmed?? which si the only way israle will agree to any ceasefire...yes hatred for israle will grow...wow its always been there and aint going ne where..but at least israel will be safe forom bombings! the lebanese people ar enot stupid..once their anger has subsided and in three years withe elections as much as they support hezbollah will n to vote them in..they will eventually recognise the problems they have caused, when their was no need for the 'resistance' anyway!!

 

[zeek]

it's funny how israel still hasn't been able to get their two soldiers back.

it's funny how israel has sacrificed at least 20 IDF troops for this operation.

it's funny how israel attacks civilians and doesn't want to take the blame.

it's funny how mel gibson says something about jews starting all wars and jewish community leaders erupt

is it just me or can anyone else see the irony?

 

[tempco]

please justoify how yopu would call a country a terrorist organisation?
its you opinion against mine...and i strongly strognly strongly do not agree that israel targets civilians especially children!!

Livni: Qana attack led to turning point in support for Israel

It now appears that the military had no information on rockets launched from the site of the building, or the presence of Hezbollah men at the time.

The Israel Defense Forces had said after the deadly air-strike that many rockets had been launched from Qana. However, it changed its version on
Monday.

As for your "especially children" comment, it's pretty obvious now that your a blind follower of Israel's cause. Your claim that Israel doesn't target children ("especially children", that is) is bollocks. I mean, wtf? How are they supposed to discern between adults and children when they're launching missiles and shells from miles away?

even though the country has no official religion, trhe idf's protocals and principles are governed by Judaic principles...which as far as i know highly values life (where any law except three can be broken to save a life!!!)

From this article I posted previously:

The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that "according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as 'innocents' of the enemy."

 

[sam04u]

Perfect link tempco... I'm really getting aggravated by these israelis.... they're unreasonable and adamant at killing a potential threat which they're too damn inefficient to do. The U.S.A has supported israel with billions of dollars of military equipment for decades and they're still incompetent idiots unable to distinguish between civilian and military targets. Including bombing U.N buildings, Roads, Bridges, Aid Convoys and a building harboring INNOCENT refugees. They've targeted cars following they're instruction, schools, hospitals, petrol stations and RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WHICH AREN'T involved.

Then they make some sort of apology and try to justify the unjustifiable and all the JEWISH people world wide support the attacks as if they can be justified and were needed.

I'm starting to feel very patriotic about my 2nd country LEBANON.... Who knows.... I might even be compelled to join HEZBOLLAH they're the only people defending my 2nd countries innocent children.

 

[jenzipoo]

Perfect link tempco... I'm really getting aggravated by these israelis.... they're unreasonable and adamant at killing a potential threat which they're too damn inefficient to do. The U.S.A has supported israel with billions of dollars of military equipment for decades and they're still incompetent idiots unable to distinguish between civilian and military targets. Including bombing U.N buildings, Roads, Bridges, Aid Convoys and a building harboring INNOCENT refugees. They've targeted cars following they're instruction, schools, hospitals, petrol stations and RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WHICH AREN'T involved.

Then they make some sort of apology and try to justify the unjustifiable and all the JEWISH people world wide support the attacks as if they can be justified and were needed.

I'm starting to feel very patriotic about my 2nd country LEBANON.... Who knows.... I might even be compelled to join HEZBOLLAH they're the only people defending my 2nd countries innocent children.

hmmm your societal generlisations, hatred towards israel and the USA and now sudden surge in patritoism...wow

as i weep and mourn over the loss of MY brother's and sister's in israel...you plot and plan about your hatred towards israel and its ally the USA...even describing your desire to join this terrorists organisation...i ask you...would you join to defend or to fight? because many people that go to join the IDF in show of their desire and partiotism to protect Israel (such as the Australian Asaf Namer) is in defence...to DEFEND the country from attacks by people who to this day continue to deny its existence..
people on the other hand that join these terrorist orgnisations for the cause...they wnat to fight. They wont the total destruction of a people..
why?

i will be killed for this but ill say it anyway:
the bottom line is regarldess of your feelings about the crisis between Israels and the Palestinians and Arab neighbours, even if you believe that there is more culpability on Israel's part for whatever reason, the following sentences really say it all: If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
If the Israelis put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel


whilst i attended a PEACE rally in support of israel 2 weeks ago (filled 2000 jews, christians and papua new guineans) whilst lebanese, arab and others protested holding coffins, pictures of dead people and burnt flags whilst chnating anti jewish and anti israel slogans around the world..
NEVER have jews chnated anti arab and anti muslim chnats int he wake of a suicide bombing or the capture of their soldiers..


israel's soldiers still missing in action http://www.mia.org.il/
now you know why israel did this! never again shall their soldiers be stolen and th lives of their loved ones ruined as they cannot remarry and not allowed to mourn because these terrorists will not release their status!!

 

[sasha0101]

Perfect link tempco... I'm really getting aggravated by these israelis.... they're unreasonable and adamant at killing a potential threat which they're too damn inefficient to do. The U.S.A has supported israel with billions of dollars of military equipment for decades and they're still incompetent idiots unable to distinguish between civilian and military targets. Including bombing U.N buildings, Roads, Bridges, Aid Convoys and a building harboring INNOCENT refugees. They've targeted cars following they're instruction, schools, hospitals, petrol stations and RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WHICH AREN'T involved.

Then they make some sort of apology and try to justify the unjustifiable and all the JEWISH people world wide support the attacks as if they can be justified and were needed.

I'm starting to feel very patriotic about my 2nd country LEBANON.... Who knows.... I might even be compelled to join HEZBOLLAH they're the only people defending my 2nd countries innocent children.

HOW DARE YOU support terrorism

 

[StGeorgeDragons]

HOW DARE YOU support terrorism

terrorism is killing of innocent people. Israel is no better then hezbollah. I feel the same way about anyone who supports this Israeli massacre of Lebanon.

 

[jenzipoo]

terrorism is killing of innocent people. Israel is no better then hezbollah. I feel the same way about anyone who supports this Israeli massacre of Lebanon.

lets clear the air
ter·ror·ist ([FONT=verdana, sans-serif] P [/FONT]) Pronunciation Key (t

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n.
One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terroristterrorism
n : the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear [syn: act of terrorism, terrorist act]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

hmm...i see how our visions are conflicting..
you believe israel targets civilians - i dont
you believe that israel is power hungry..and has no true goals - i believe they are defending their state from people who continually deny its existence
whereby their goals arent relgiios you feel usa and israel are trying to inflict western ideologies or israel is trying to take over the mid east - i believe they are defening their state and only want peace..not to occupy other people's land

mas·sa·cre ([FONT=verdana, sans-serif] P [/FONT]) Pronunciation Key (m

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n.

1. The act or an instance of killing a large number of humans indiscriminately and cruelly.
2. The slaughter of a large number of animals.
3. Informal. A severe defeat, as in a sports event.

tr.v. mas·sa·cred, (-k

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1. To kill indiscriminately and wantonly; slaughter.
2. Informal. To defeat decisively.
3. Informal. To botch; bungle: massacred the French language trying to order dinner.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/massacre



I see a clash again...you believe they were killed 'indisicriminantly' and 'cruely' i dont..i believ personally the idf did not know people were there and were aiming at hezbollah mmilitia fighting from there..
AND STANDBY THE NOTION THAT ISRAEL DOES NOT TARGET INNOCENT CIVILIANS..why then a 48 hr ceasefire of aerial attacks?? coz hezbollah can rearm coz they love a challenge...cmonn


on a side note..why does the red cross have a different death toll to lebanese authroties (they sure as hell arent pro israel) and why the 7 hr delay before the building collapsed after it was hit???

 

[Jordan.J]

Thanks for the definitions jenzipoo

I now truely believe Israel are the terrorists

 

[$hiftyIceQueen]

lets clear the air
ter·ror·ist [URL="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg"]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg[/URL] ([FONT=verdana, sans-serif] P [/FONT]) Pronunciation Key (thttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ebreve.gifrhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gifhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/schwa.gifr-http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ibreve.gifst)
n.
One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terroristterrorism
n : the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear [syn: act of terrorism, terrorist act]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

hmm...i see how our visions are conflicting..
you believe israel targets civilians - i dont
you believe that israel is power hungry..and has no true goals - i believe they are defending their state from people who continually deny its existence
whereby their goals arent relgiios you feel usa and israel are trying to inflict western ideologies or israel is trying to take over the mid east - i believe they are defening their state and only want peace..not to occupy other people's land

mas·sa·cre [URL="http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg"]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg[/URL] ([FONT=verdana, sans-serif] P [/FONT]) Pronunciation Key (mhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/abreve.gifshttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gifhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/schwa.gif-khttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/schwa.gifr)
n.

1. The act or an instance of killing a large number of humans indiscriminately and cruelly.
2. The slaughter of a large number of animals.
3. Informal. A severe defeat, as in a sports event.

tr.v. mas·sa·cred, (-khttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/schwa.gifrd) mas·sa·cring, (-krhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ibreve.gifng, -khttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/schwa.gifr-http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ibreve.gifng) mas·sa·cres

1. To kill indiscriminately and wantonly; slaughter.
2. Informal. To defeat decisively.
3. Informal. To botch; bungle: massacred the French language trying to order dinner.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/massacre



I see a clash again...you believe they were killed 'indisicriminantly' and 'cruely' i dont..i believ personally the idf did not know people were there and were aiming at hezbollah mmilitia fighting from there..
AND STANDBY THE NOTION THAT ISRAEL DOES NOT TARGET INNOCENT CIVILIANS..why then a 48 hr ceasefire of aerial attacks?? coz hezbollah can rearm coz they love a challenge...cmonn


on a side note..why does the red cross have a different death toll to lebanese authroties (they sure as hell arent pro israel) and why the 7 hr delay before the building collapsed after it was hit???

all u do is come on the net talk bout how hezballah and half the arab countries are terorists when israel is the place that makes terrorists man its people like u that i totally feel sowi 4 .......

if u call hezballah [a political party in leb] terrorists because they are killing israelis then wat the hell do u call israel ????????? wat a heroic state? they are killing people for no reason [it aint a reason to kill just cause they think 1 or 2 hezballah militants are in the area]

and wat da hell is up with these israelis goin to israel "to defend their country" if its so fine for them to go then y are lebs allowed to go or they start calling them terroists

also wateva peson sed that that guy should go if he wants to [to leb] .......just a reality chek for u ........they bombd all exits and theres no way out or in .so no1 can go whereas israel is recruitin all the israelis in the world .......

ur bein a hipocrit coz hilter killed all those jews and gypsiz n other types however israel is doin the exact same thing when they are EXTERMINATING the palestinian/lebanese race

israel has been killing palestinians wheneva they feel lik it and for no damn reason
they hav been killin lebs for no reason
they kill everyone for no reason
they are killing young children and civilians for no reason

also the ONLY reason hezballah is dubbed a terrorist organisation is cause they are a threat to israel..and usa wants to please israel......and australia wants to please usa.....

oh yeah and those definitions seem to fit israel quite well thats for letting me understand ur point of view

*when talkin bout israel referin to israeli gov not the citizens

 

[jenzipoo]

all u do is come on the net talk bout how hezballah and half the arab countries are terorists when israel is the place that makes terrorists man its people like u that i totally feel sowi 4 .......

hmmm if u spell sorry like that then sweety i feel sorry for you..
yes guys israel makes people...theyre more advanced than i thought...and no israel does not harbour terrorists despite what your anti israel anti jewish propaganda says

if u call hezballah [a political party in leb] terrorists because they are killing israelis then wat the hell do u call israel ????????? wat a heroic state? they are killing people for no reason [it aint a reason to kill just cause they think 1 or 2 hezballah militants are in the area]

yes mayeb in lebanon theyre a political party...but wake up and smell the real world...many many countries have denounced them a terrorist organisation..hamas is a political party too they sure as hell are a terrorist organisation...or are they the new wave or political parties that has suicide bombing as their new campaign..
i didnt say they are a terrorist state coz they kill israelis...it is the intent, reasoning and manner in which they do this that justifies me calling them a terrorists...they have religious extremist ideologies and want to drive the jews and zionists into the sea..

and wat da hell is up with these israelis goin to israel "to defend their country" if its so fine for them to go then y are lebs allowed to go or they start calling them terroists

would love to reply...dont know what your saying hun

also wateva peson sed that that guy should go if he wants to [to leb] .......just a reality chek for u ........they bombd all exits and theres no way out or in .so no1 can go whereas israel is recruitin all the israelis in the world .......

why do israel need to recruit them when theyre making them...o all the israelis in the world...i see..so theyre israelis but all over the world...gotcha

ur bein a hipocrit coz hilter killed all those jews and gypsiz n other types however israel is doin the exact same thing when they are EXTERMINATING the palestinian/lebanese race

dont ever dare compare the Holocaust to this war...dont you ever!
there is no basis to comparison and if u are sucking up all the racist and anti semitic bullshit you hear...you should go educate yourself as to what the Holocaust was and the true intent of it..
Peace options have been proposed to the palestiniains numerous of time...not taken...israel controversically withdrew its settlers from the gaza strip and removed its forces (splitting the nation in two..) and still nothing so dont you dare tell me what israle is doing is extrerminating these people...coz trust me theyd all be gone now

israel has been killing palestinians wheneva they feel lik it and for no damn reason
they hav been killin lebs for no reason
they kill everyone for no reason
they are killing young children and civilians for no reason

your absolutely dellusional..
palestinians = i know you hate facts and proof so ill keep it simple..israel has offered peace they refused end of story...they wont israel gone israel wants to live in peace WITH the palestinians
a nice little thing showing the deception of the media..
http://www.break.com/index/what_really_happens_pallywood.html
lebanese=hezbollah has proven to be a continual threat to israel and for 6 years israle hasnt had a soldier in lebanon but when they killed 8 soldiers and kidnapped 2 from INSIDE israel..mate u got another thing coming

also the ONLY reason hezballah is dubbed a terrorist organisation is cause they are a threat to israel..and usa wants to please israel......and australia wants to please usa.....

no actually they justify terroristic attacks by islamic extremism in the name of allah and for the jihad cause..

oh yeah and those definitions seem to fit israel quite well thats for letting me understand ur point of view

as i said everyone will see them how they want to..

*when talkin bout israel referin to israeli gov not the citizens

heres a simple fact for you sweety bunch 8 in 10 israelis support the government..

 

[gerhard]

heres a simple fact for you sweety bunch 8 in 10 israelis support the government..

in the diaspora its more like 99 out of 100.

 

[StGeorgeDragons]

Ive been thinking about some things. Israel and the world knows what Israel is doing now isnt gonna get their soldiers back, nor is it going to defeat hizbolah, today after 20 days, hizbolah launched the most rockets then ever before. So why is Israel doing this at all?

Obviously the attacks on Lebanon is to gain enough international recognition so hizbolah will disarm, while hurting hezbolah and punishing lebanon.

The reason why Israel wants Hezbolah gone, is so USA can deal with Iran without the threat of hizbolah.

 

[jenzipoo]

in the diaspora its more like 99 out of 100.

i was trying to show how even though brightness shifty ice cream tried to separate civilians with the government (which is well credited) she must still recognise that most civilians are behind their government

but

what was your point???

 

[runtlocks]

http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/newswire/display/183/index.php

 

[jenzipoo]

http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/newswire/display/183/index.php

i read the article and was deeply saddened by the photogrpahs
here is one of the many responses received:
Re: "Daddy, why did Israel do this to us?"

01 Aug 2006

by Assad
Reply to this comment
The pictures are truly heartbreaking and it's very easy to blame the attackers. But as a Lebanese expatriate myself, I knew this would happen someday. Hezbollah's mission is to kill Israelis and bolster its own position in the arab world. And in order to do this, they preyed on the innocent Lebanese. They launch rockets from apartment buildings, hide out in homes, and pay poor families to live amongst them, thus making them human shields. This "holy war" as the muslim world would have you believe, is being fought only by the muslims. The Israelis are not fighting muslims. All the Israelis have ever wanted was to just be left alone to live their lives in peace. They're not interested in land or killing muslims. To think otherwise is incredibly naive and ignorant.

 

[tempco]

hmm...i see how our visions are conflicting..
you believe israel targets civilians - i dont
you believe that israel is power hungry..and has no true goals - i believe they are defending their state from people who continually deny its existence
whereby their goals arent relgiios you feel usa and israel are trying to inflict western ideologies or israel is trying to take over the mid east - i believe they are defening their state and only want peace..not to occupy other people's land

Then explain this article: 'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana'

"We found no evidence of Hezbollah fighters in Qana," Kassem Shaulan, a 28-year-old medic and training manager for the Red Cross in Tyre told IPS at their headquarters. "When we rescue people or recover bodies from villages, we usually see rocket launchers or Hezbollah fighters if they are there, but in Qana I can say that the village was 100 percent clear of either of those."

Another Red Cross worker, 32-year-old Mohammad Zatar, told IPS that "we can tell when Hezbollah has been firing rockets from certain areas, because all of the people run away, on foot if they have to."

Seems like the IDF are making a sick joke out of the previous 1996 Qana massacre... they know they can get away with murder, so they've done it again.

 

[Jordan.J]

jenzipoo, you have to realise that a ceasefire is the best soloution at this point in time.

If you truely were saddened by the photos, you shouldnt want the war to continue, since more and more children will die

 

[The Brucemaster]

jenzipoo, you have to realise that a ceasefire is the best soloution at this point in time.

If you truely were saddened by the photos, you shouldnt want the war to continue, since more and more children will die

Yeah well seeing as the Israeli Prime Minister has just called on 15,000 more reservists troops and explicitly stated he does not want a ceasefire I don't think we should place much stock in diplomatic solutions...

 

[AntiHyper]

Actually it would be better for Israel to summon its reservists and scrap its bombers & artilleries. By having infantry on field, they should be able to provide a much higher militant kills over civillian kills. (Make that militant kills only)

I propose no more bombings or shellings!

Also with the infantry units they often have medics that would gladly help injured civs and combat engineers to help excavate rubbles of apartments.